TDS Arx Raid 1 - Mid tier dps woes

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Nenton, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Lianeb Augur

    1 bard using Lure of siren song and fade. 1 Mezzer with 105 PBAE standing in the same spot as the bard with a tash totem on ground.
  2. Maeryn Augur

    TBS - 28 guilds beat a top tier event before SoF
    SoF - 31 or fewer guilds beat a top tier event before SoD (31 Meldrath wins, 1st events in Crys not tracked)
    SoD - 72 guilds beat a top tier event before UF
    UF - 7 guilds beat a top tier event before Thule
    Thule - 40 guilds beat a top tier event before Alaris
    VoA - 43 guilds beat a top tier event before RoF
    RoF - 38 guilds beat a top tier event before CotF
    CotF - 43 guilds beat a top tier event before TDS

    Except for the part where the number of "mid-tier+" guilds has remained largely the same since the Underfoot "mistake" and is around 50% higher than TBS/SoF levels.

    Yes, there were more terrible guilds farming Anguish during TSS than guilds farming SoD during CotF but even with an assumed larger overall EQ population fewer guilds were seeing the highest tier of raids while an expansion was current except of course for SoD for any expansion DoDH to UF.

    FV server is 1, 1, 2, 0, 1, 1, 1 and 3 of those guilds in that order because of whatever combination of factors. Even being in a guild that is 7 of those 10 entries I much prefer the 3 to the 1 and including TDS is currently 8 of 11.

    Triality and a number of other guilds are no longer around. Phoenix Rises would be one of the more recent merges. Reckless Ascension would be one of the guilds that first cracked that list during CotF that is doing quite well in TDS.

    Cough up some 101-103 Runes, Gloves and Earrings to whoever can scrape 40ish people together, let them work on Vitio once they are flagged. Yes, it is a huge difference between doing current content and not or at least getting current content spells and soft cap at 105 focus from doing CotF T2 raids.
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  3. sojero One hit wonder

    For mid tier family guilds giving them even a single target to shoot for and obtain in current content while also gearing in one expansion old content is a huge win mentally.

    I am a member of Shining alliance (SA) on the big Rathe killers, and many members of our guild have left to go to the other bigger guilds, we are many times used to gear up and jump off of. We have a core set of people that are a big family, and we stick around. We are an alliance guild that has an alliance with Calidus and accept many people to raid with us. We often have old guildees from the larger guilds come back and help us, and they are still part of our family, if not our guild.

    When we get stuck on event and don't get wins you see the amount of people logging in for raids go way down, then we we do get that win, they come back up. That is what you deal with in a mid tier guild. On our Saturday raids we may have 46-50 players, and on our Wednesday raids we may have 30-40. We hit CoTF t1a/b on Sat when we have #'s and we hit RoF t3/4 on Wednesdays.

    We also deal with people that don't follow emotes/directions as well, and dont care to top their dps. As a sk I am generally in the to 10 or very close to it on DPS. We have a few shinning stars and some that shine in their own way, but we don't and wont sit them out because we are a family guild and playing together means more than beating the harder events.

    There is a different mentality when it comes to your guilds that are not at the top of progression, but that doesnt mean we don't like having targets to go after that are relevant. With TDS tier 3 gear being as good as t1/2 ROF our gear that we get from our Wednesday raids is only marginally better than what our members can get from grouping, and that takes a mental toll too.
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  4. Brogett Augur

    Oh I know what you *CAN* do, and was continually yelling at them :). I also know what sucked for us, and it was the agro. They just weren't doing it, and that was causing us to have low dps and to find the event very hard.
  5. Smokn Augur

    get your CC together, tell your dps peeps to stop slackin off and this event is a joke, it really is, NOTHING about this event is a DPS check, what it is ALL about is CC and Tanks and following AT's, the MAJOR diff between mid tier guilds n the top guilds is the fact that the top guilds dont permit slacking, just sayin these things to be honest not to hurt no one's feelings. Also to top it off MOST these new events are copy/paste of OLD events with some new mechanics, keep workin on it and get all your troops on the same page n it should be a cakewalk ;)
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  6. Sathayorn Augur

    Really, the problem stems from CotF being way too easy an expansion. Players that don't strive to be the best become complacent, especially when SOE tells them that it's OK for two entire years.

    Had SOE stuck to their Easy - Hard - Easy - Hard rotation and not went Easy - Hard - Easy - Hard - Easy - Laughable - Hard we wouldn't be in this situation. With the exception of Tita's ghost the raids seem pretty well balanced.