Sunk Cost Fallacy

Such as?
With unlimited charges?
With no recast delay?
With range 200 or better?
Available already in Classic from lvl1 (in theory)?

That actually makes AoE PL viable with ease then..
Guess I am going to have to coerce some of my buddies into rolling enchanter alts just so we can have some fun!

Just stack the initial group with enchanters / cleric pullers and have the secondary group stacked with 1 healer and a ton of AoE DPS.

Something i am missing here isn't npc for quest impossible to be attacked. If i go talk to let's say npc in ranger guild in kelethin don't think i can attack him.

Depends on the quest, for instance, King Tormax we have video of folks turning in Dain heads with no faction.

You are comparing something that has only 3 charges to a tflux staff? you will waste most of those charges before the mob unlocks, good luck, I would put my money on the tflux staff getting the lock more consistently. No recast and unlimited charges so they can spam it with no worries, even if you had say 6 of those wands that is a whole 18 charges, you cant spam that to see if you can beat the wizard because you will blow through all of your charges.

i did miss something - the tests i saw showcased the mob unlocking when the oog healer pulled agro. the test was basic and i was not aware that simply being on the agro list unlocked the mob to the healer.

i dont think i've ever seen a solo wizard camping a named that's 45+ in classic, specifically in a dungeon - does a single lvl 50 wizard have enough mana to kill the ghoul lord or efreeti? i'm just curious cause it's something i've never seen or done.

i'm glad you agree "some" have similar ability.

i'm gonna disagree with you on cleric'ing - superior heal is only 500-600 hp for 185 mana - if the tank is missing 1.3k or more health, cheal is more mana efficient. what's overhealed is unimportant.

if you have nothing targeted - charges dont get used

tflux just allows laziness at the expense of having to have a wizard in your box set or as your only char.

You have no data to prove that one way or another and you have not been named spokesman of the community.

You see a few people post on the forums, but as we all know, the forums are just a small subset of the players and not representative of the player base.

You don't like it and that's fine. The solution to that is don't play on it. Problem solved.

Once 50, yes for efreeti at least but lord has way more hp.
Those targets happen to be two of the toughest named in classic besides raids and perhaps Brother Z/Q and maybe a few others.
Which most classes are not able to solo, so your example is kind of flawed.

I do, but the wizard staff is way better than those others.

If a tank is missing more than 1.3k hp he is more than likely DEAD by the time your CH lands in classic, depending on the content you are killing
CH is 10s cast + 400 mana, I disagree with your take on this matter.

your example of root/nuke was ambiguous - the context of having to have a 2nd box with the wizard is for those creme de la creme item camps - no one really cares if a lvl 12 bandit gets out-tagged by tflux staff.

we can disagree on the cheal strat - i just want to point out with an understanding of timing, you would start the cheal at 80-85% health of the tank so it lands when the tank is missing 1.5k-2k hp - most tanks have 2.5-3.5k in classic - 5-6k in kunark - when you get that groove going in whatever camp you're in for that sweet xp grind - the dmg output typically has a pattern and it's easy to adjust when to start that cheal to get that full mana efficiency that having a cleric brings.

We will disagree on this and I will leave it at that.

Efreeti for sure, but why do you assume that the wizard is alone? (I personally like to box a cleric together with my wizard as well and that duo works just nicely in most situations).
We are talking about who has the most consistant ability to tag a mob first - I certainly never argued that a wizard would be able to solo everything on their own, but the Flux Staff certainly allows them to more consistantly grab first tag faster than most.

But since you bring in the ability to solo the Ghoul and Efreeti Lords then would a lvl50 Paladin in purely classic gear be able to solo those? (I actually don't know, but I rather suspect not)

Anyway, in many of the higher valued and easily soloable named camps (like Hadden, Ancient Cyclops, a cloaked dhampyre etc.) not to mention HGs in Rathe Mts. then wizards will have a clear advantage in being able to win the tag by using Flux Staff.

Didn't they say when mobs spawn they are locked for a few seconds? You could easily use 18 charges during that time frame while tstaff is spamming against you for the unlock.

Is anyone seeing if they can ping pong a spawn or camp? Set up a routine where you have the unlock controlled and the mob just can get caught in an infinite loop of macroed goobericity? Things wanders back and forth from one end of zone to the other, lost, forever lost.

read the previous posts cause you're obviously missing context

i'm not the one who assumed the wizard would be alone, Kraked did - roflmao

my assumption is a wizard WILL need help for efreeti/ghoul/lord/magus - really any dungeon camp.

you're arguing to argue for some reason - we're not talking about paladins, the whole conversation is based around tflux staff and wizard ability - not other class solo ability.

hadden and ac will be fine to camp as a solo wizard.

dhampyre would have it's challenges.

hg farming with a wizard would be extremely inefficient but yep, you could get the tags and solo.

I have soloed efreeti as a wizard. It is very sketchy, you will just have to reset the fight if you get bad rolls on nukes/resists. I would not recommend it.

Maybe you should take your own advice? Since you are clearly the one missing the context (on purpose?).

Since you feel the need to drag my name back into this:

1 ) I said it is laughable to think you need a 2nd character as a wizard , no where did I mention specific named that are hard for groups in era to kill in my original comment.

2 ) Ghoul Lord is the only named that a wizard would absolutely require assistance on because of the HP he has and the wizards mana pool.

3 ) You lost any credibility saying "HBC/Dhampyre" would have challenges and shows you no idea what you are talking about.
Soloing Efreeti / Magus / Frenzy with 0 effort, its called "Wand of Conflag" since we are basing out argument off of being level 50....

4 ) HG farming as a wizard is extremely easy and very lucrative on TLPs early on.

The challenge any wizard will face with any named/npc is "Does it summon", if not it is cake, if it does you need to evaluate if you are able to out dps the NPC before you, yourself die.

Even if you don't blow all the charges on the first one, you still have at most 18 casts, and thats if you took a few days to camp that wand.... vs a tflux staff that will take less time to get than camping a single one of those wands. If you wait until you visually see it unlock... you already lost the battle by the way.

Also, Wizards are great box dps with added benefit of ports, why hatin on the wizzies?