Shadowhaven Casino

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by modenchanter, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. modenchanter New Member

    Hello, I play a bard and like to collect rare items. I would like to get the casino items I already have the Mask of Deception, does this block me from receiving Guise of the Deceiver as a reward? I don't want to waste any gold tickets since I'm not interested in the mask.
  2. Cakvala Augur

    I do not think it will block you, but it is random so you will never know what you will get.
  3. Recnarp Augur

    If the item is lore, you will not get another. Once you turn a gold ticket in, (if I remember correctly) it'll give you the ticket back if the random draw lands on a lore item already in your inventory. This is why most people try to find someone with a bag full of casino items so they can have a better chance at getting what they want.
  4. Xianzu_Monk_Tunare Augur

    Mask will not block the Guise.
  5. Tnexus Journeyman

    Mask absolutely will block Guise. Delete the Mask first.
  6. Tobynn Augur

    Why would Mask block Guise? Different lore items, different ID numbers.
  7. Dreamrider Elder

    When you turn-in your ticket to Jacob Thornblade, sometimes you'll get the following message:
    This means you have the item already that Jacob Thornblade just tried to give you. Just keep resubmitting your ticket until you get an item. With all tradeable items, the Guise of the Deceiver mask dropped first each time, then took quite a few retries to get the Glowing Black Drum

    This is from the Gold Ticket page on Allakhazam: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25424
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  8. Dreamrider Elder

    Also from the Allakhazam Gold ticket page: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25424
    Disclosure: I am Byren on Allakhazam because Dreamrider was already taken.
  9. JERUS Augur

    Pretty sure I actually got a Drum first, which is good because being a bard I don't need the guise. So that isn't really a rule just maybe the luck that person had.
  10. Dreamrider Elder

    Yes, I should have stated that the Guise "dropped first each time for me."

    modenchanter could also check the Bazaar for the 6 tradeable items that one can win, if they don't want to chance getting the mask. I saw Holgresh Beads for 80k and a Gold Ticket somewhere for 40k.
  11. Tnexus Journeyman

    It's coded so you cannot get both because most people do not want both. Additionally, you cannot get a second drum of either color once you have one.
  12. Tobynn Augur

    I have never found anyone in possession of a Glowing White Drum. Everyone I have spoke with on the subject has the black version.
  13. Recnarp Augur

    Really? Hmm.
  14. Tobynn Augur

    Just ventured into LGuk for giggles, killed Assassin, looted Mask of Deception. I now have both Guise and Mask in my inventory. Although the Gold Ticket script may well check for ownership of Mask, and preclude rewarding Guise, as expected the two items are not mutually exclusive.

    As I have nothing better to spend Loyalty points on, and have access to all the casino droppables, and already have the Black drum, think I will destroy my Guise and feed a gold ticket to Jacob a while out of curiosity.

    I find it odd that the Guise (rarity: NLA) item would be deemed unavailable as a possible reward for someone with a Mask (rarity: super common) item.
  15. SpamFactory Augur

    Mask DOES block the guise. I've personally tested this.


    I put all casino items except the guise (I did have the glowing black drum on me) on a toon with a mask of deception and handed in the ticket for about 30 wheel jam messages before concluding you cannot get a guise with a mask in your possession.

    It makes sense that they would do this. Gold tickets used to be super rare before the loyalty points. I'm sure bards/rogues would not have wanted a guise back when the casino first came out.

    There is nothign stopping you from having both in your inventory. You just can't win a guise if you have a mask, so get the guise first if you want both.
    Obviously whoever created the casino made a conscious decision to have the mask block the guise. It has nothing to do with lore tags or item IDs or anything else.
  16. SpamFactory Augur

    You can only get a black drum from casino. the other colours are not from the casino.

    Recall that the casino was removed temporarily at some point after its initial launch. I suspect that they removed the white/red/green drums then, or the white/red/green drums were from stormhammer or some other source that is NOT the casino.