Stop fear mongering to push a personal opinion/agenda, this is very untrue and a fallacy that "since a number of people use 3rd party programs, all boxers use them". A large number of players went and bought laptops purely so we can box legitimately on Truebox servers, This doesn't mean as soon as a non-truebox server comes up that we will start using cheats or third party programs. Also in regards to the discussion about box army's locking down hill giants. I'll agree boxing pre-GoD has a number of setbacks. Totally hope with whatever era the non-truebox server starts in that it is GoD or later to at least provide instancing. Even starting at level 1 on a server in GoD would be fine due to the number of places you have available to level and get gear.