Research Changes in upcoming patch

As I hope we showed last time, that won't work either.

People are still Mage/pet tanking NToV. Couldn't do that when Velious was first released. Please remove the mobs.

Meh, i was oblivious to these tomes till like 3 days ago. Monday night I decided to gamble 13k on a tome. I knew it was out of era, and there was a risk of it disappearing. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

The issue here is that the game has changed so much over the time, and some of these bugs/exploits/out of era stuff have been available for so long (at least 7 years), that at this point none is sure of what is intended to be in game on progresion servers and what isn't.

I mean, by example, Lay on Hands heal over time component is quite OP for current content, and shouldn't come out until way after OOW, yet we have had it since clasic just fine; LDoN era items that dropped in Velious are still in game even if you guys made them stop dropping; Alchemy still has TSS era recipes in that are craftable instead of pre-TSS only, etc etc.

What makes you think they plan to keep research a viable tradeskill? They made the decision long ago to completely end its usefulness on live. Preserving it as a useful tradeskill isn't on the agenda.

And still nobody pays attention to the poor fishermen in EQ...

Let's make fishing !

PS - Even the fisherman have it better than the beggers, pickpockets, and bandagers!

I'm unable to research level 61 spells in PoP. Based on this wording, I thought this update was only going to affect spells GoD and on?

same problem here

You can't research any spells in era anymore. That's why everyone was so upset when they made this change. It makes research worthless.

Radarx clarified later on that this was not supposed to go into effect until GoD

Research skill needs to be removed from the game. Take it and all mats from the game out. It does nothing but take up space and use resources that need to be delegated to PoK and PoT lag.

Any update on when this will be corrected so we can craft 61-64 spells?

My suspicion is never. Clearly the changes were intentional, and research is no longer a thing.

Waiting for this to happen!

That was for the extra removal after patch notes of GoD tomes. The patch notes of the research nerf still apply. It was just a oops we missed it add-on.

I guess I am confused by that... I was under the impression PoP spells would be craft able based on what I quoted from RadarX. I can still make level 60 spells that are not three expansions behind.

RadarX, can we get some clarification on whether or not PoP spells can be crafted now?

It is going to be a no, unfortunately

Yeah, his comment was about the removal of the DoN tomes. Everyone was freaking out thinking they were going to remove all crafted spells and remove them from their books when they made the first announcement.

RadarX was clarifying that and saying no, we're only removing DoN spells onward scribed and made.

But not being able to craft spells until however many expansions after includes all except classic I would think. Research is dead.

I would argue that research is mostly useless. There are some other skills that are even more useless though.

The only uses I have seen of research has been:

1. Trade skills quests: Brells shawl, artisan prize, anything that uses research as part of the quest.
2. Charms that checked the research skill for max charm value.
3. Crafting Mechano instructions (until TDS)
4. Crafting the enchanter imbue/enchant alloy spells. (the ones I can think of are from UF and RoF, enchant planar alloy, and I believe UF one is used for the shawl)