I would like to share my exp. I been camping out side the Temple in WW and the first day I started I was able to keep about 5 mobs down. The next day I was about to keep 8 down. Now my gear didn't change and there was no patch to change the mobs. The only change was the effort I was putting in to it. When I was first camping I took it a bit slower to see what I could handle. The next day I was pushing my self to find the max I was able to clear. My point is that it not about the gear but about how your playing. Yes gear add a bit but so does a number of other factors. AA are you max or not ? A avg group can all be gear the same but based on the AA count and if they are well spent can have an impact on the groups speed. Heroic AA.. These are gained by doing different requirements Starting with CoTF. It might not seam like a lot but having these help a lot for my group gear toons it is even more so needed if you want to preform better then the Avg Joe. Aug slots: Are you augment slots filled? I started playing my cleric that I had ignored for 2 years. When I looked at his gear it was bad. I Log him in because we were going to do a set of CoV missions but the healer we had was not comfortable solo healing. We completed all 4 mission but it was Very ruff I got one rounded a few time by the AE that were going off. I the next day I upgrade 10 slots with the gear i got out of doing the missions and on the magelo ranks I moved from #249 to #197. I saw that with changing the gear out I was missing many augs. So I went to old exp and got my type 5's and put them in. I moved up in Rank to #173. I then joined a pick up group as the only healer and was able to do the set with them. My cleric is 240k HP / Mana. My point being you don't NEED raid gear and you can use other ways to lift your toon up. Making sure you have all your augs is can make a big difference. Group make up. Many of the groups you see out there that are able to do the mass killing are doing it by the group make up they put together. Many of the class in EQ are designed to group with other classes. A shammy for example will improve a melee group more then a caster group. Finding synergy in you group play a bigger role then gear. It also not about just having the right classes but working together to time your abilities so that you max the DPS. When you see an SK swarming 20+ mobs it often not the gear that letting them pull it off but rather there group. having a Chanter AE stunning and a Necro sphere and dotting multi mobs. Yes the SK is AE aggro to hold them all and with using disc and life taps. It is a group working to gear to pull off what you happen to run past. Also it not easy and most that do it have died countless time working on perfecting it that when it going right it more because of the skill and effort they put into it that your see the result of. DO NOT think that just because you have raid gear that the game is going to become easy. The reason people have play EQ for 20+ year is because they like the challenge. learning to play a class and then learning to master it takes time. Their are people that make some stuff look easy they didn't get there over night it took time. Have you spent Day or Week parsing out what order to use your burn and cast your spells? have you set up auto trigger to help improve your game play. Have you looked are people that play your class better then you and asked them for help or advise? No it not required to play the game. Yes it is work. that is why many people have gotten burn out over the year because it a lot of work to "Get Good". When some one comes a long and post that "raid" gear is a game changer it a slap in the face to all those that have put in the effort to master there class. Yes most of these people have raid gear but it because they earned it by pushing them self to be better. Most people that Raid do so because they master the group game and are looking for something more to push them to be better. In turn the new trick they learn raiding then make them even better at the group game. I would also like to point out I know a few people that play ONLY group game and never raid. They have maxed every /achievement that doesn't require a raid and are some very Skilled players that have made the choice to not raid. These people that have master their toons can do everything a Raid gear toon can do. If anything they are even more skilled because they had to learn how to get their goals with out raid gear. So rather then just posing to say give me better gear. how about put some effort into it and become better with out asking for the hand out. If you want raid gear that bad then join a raid guild. Their is plenty of them out there to meet all kinds of play time and schedules.