For someone who holds 100% raid attendance, the amount of currency I end up with as extra is pretty high. I would love to be able to use this currency on an alt, but honestly, all my useful alts are on other accounts, so it doesn't matter. If I could it would net about 3-4 pieces of gear on said alt, which isn't enough to make them overly powerful, but could provide boosts in areas that are necessary (BP/Legs/Arms/Weapons/Shield). Getting credit to unlock items can remain intact. I don't want people just gearing up alts instead of themselves. I have some suggestions: 1) Make purchased gear from raid venders perma No Trade, even on FV server. Transfers to FV should destroy all raid currency on that toon. 2) Add Loyalty Vendor type items to raid vendors. Things you could use but are consumable (like rez tokens and glyphs). 3) Add "dummy" items with effects like CoP4, or the click from Grelleth, etc. Chase items from previous expansions or the like. 4) Add spells from previous expansions. I could rank III everything I missed (although some items can just be 1 grouped/boxed these days). I think more options to progress the toon that earned the currency is the way to go.
Same. And I know many others in this same situation. All making it heirloom would do is encourage me to PL an alt and then feed it to FV.
It would make me raid again. My casters could equip my melees since I'm not good enough to raid as a melee class but they need the gear.
So, as a raider, you're expected to get gear from only drops, not currency, or you'll be restricted on your movement between servers. Doesn't really seem fair, does it? At the moment I can think of 3 items I'm currently using that I've purchased with EoK raid coins, making me a stronger character overall. If I were to switch to FV, you're now saying I have to give up what I've earned? If your end-goal is to get DB more money by having people raid more, why not just get rid of the currency altogether? Those 3 pieces I've already purchased will have to be earned via drops, which will make me raid longer - both because I have to wait for those 3 to drop, and because there will be that much more competition from other folks who can't purchase their missing items either. Get a raid force that lets you load an alt in for loot if you're really set on getting these guys gear. Or hell, play the alt during the raid! But it's not good enough, right? Maybe it shouldn't have top-end gear if it can't earn it. Put in more items to the vendors if you're dead set on nixing your currency. Augs, bags, illusions, mounts, trophies, collectibles, teleportation clicks, consumables, ornaments, placeables. Plenty of things to spend excess currency on.
This needs to be done already. If I have to suffer through TBM t3 any more I'll tear my own eyes out and make them into augs.
should just make stuff account wide (on the same server) so if you get the flag for X raid, then the alts do too, if you are keyed/flagged to enter Y zone, then the alts can too. You would still need to level/AA/gear the alt, it would greatly benefit all (I know, we can't have that, ppl can't enjoy the game too much) this has always irritated me and even cause frustration in players that want to flag their alts (same account) to raids (on Phinny atm) but the problem has always been there. People earned the points/gear, let it be their choice which of their chars use it.
I am ok with the proposal but do consider that a raid player may not choose to spend the currency on their raid main, but instead on their alt. So gearing of raiders may be a little slower. I think that would be the exception, though, and frankly if raid guilds care enough about it, they can police it themselves. I wouldn't not implement the proposal just because it can be slightly abused.
Another consideration that may be more serious. This can result in faster gearing of raid mains. Raider earns coin on main raid character and is limited by lockouts. They also raid in a public raid guild with a second char and funnel that additional raid currency to their raid main.
Not so much about the currency, but I'd like to see the locks on items on the raid merchants removed after a time, e.g. when the expansion goes free. Maybe I'm a little OCD but I hate missing spells even if they are from half a dozen expansions back. Would be nice to be able to use this 'useless' currency to get older Rk. III spells, or useful clickies, etc.
I'd say a firm 'No' to raid currency being passed on to alts.. It's an achievement, and _meant_ to say that you play your class with a fair degree of proficiency, and have a whole other aspect to play than you find in group level play. If a guild is that reliant on players that just play to get maxmax gear and then give up, leaving everyone in the lurch, you have two problems: 1) A guild driven by pure loot focus, and dominated by a few dominant characters. 2) Those characters are doing a very poor job of passing on the skills, and training the next generation. To me, a Guild is partly about the ability to come online and socialise, it's partly about being around people who have different experiences to me that I can learn to play the game better from, and it's also about being around to answer questions and guide the next generation of players with tips and tricks and styles of play that may be of use to them. If you want a super hard, max raid gear character, like several posts have said, go out and earn it as that class.. Learn the play style, learn the ins and outs, strong points and weak and try and find better ways to play it.. Never know, may find something that helps the original class. Besides, playing a weakened character, raid, or group, only sharpens the skills, and lets you hone your skills to become a better player.. It's easy, and almost worthless, to go out and just hit things with no risk and proclaim that you're "Uber". I'll take the underpowered player that can control a situation and get themselves and a team out of trouble every time through skill..
Back to the original topic... I don't think the idea went far enough! I think ALL special currency should just flat out be tradable. With raid currency -- it is awarded in small amounts. To get enough for even the cheapest of items means a lot of raids. Also, most special currency vendors are locked behind flagging (i.e.: if you haven't done certain things, you don't see certain items). With older raid content, you will have a hard time finding a raid force to go do it. Many people may even have a surplus of the coin from those old raids they never used, while others may be in need of that coin to buy that one item they want... or that Rank 3 spell they want.... and would pay Platinum for said coin. So, why not?
I have multiple 105 alts on my main acct that could benefit from heirloom raid currency, but I am still against this, mainly because I think there are much better alternatives to what would ultimately end up becoming a #currencyGate situation in some exploited capacity. A few quick ideas: a) make no-trade versions of some/all of the world super rares on a Marcia-esque vendor, purchaseable only with that expansions raid currency b) as mentioned aboved, add some raid chase items to current raid vendors after an expansion is no longer considered current content like you always used to do(eye augs half masks etc) c) make a currency converter to convert old raid currency to a much lesser amt of new currency or useful glyphs/new items etc and on and on...(I know this has been brought up in the past, to no avail)
