Ragefire Rotation Suggestion.

Gilamas · Jul 25, 2015

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Hendar2 · Jul 25, 2015

Batbener said: ↑

“Instead of giving each guild a day, give them a time slot when all raid mobs are off limits to the other guilds.”

OK, your guild gets 2:05am PDT to 2:40am PDT.

Prime time in the US is going to be highly desired, and the folks who don't get such a slot would not be happy. I'd rather have instancing, but a rotation sounds better than this.

Batbener · Jul 25, 2015

Hendar2 said: ↑

“OK, your guild gets 2:05am PDT to 2:40am PDT.

Prime time in the US is going to be highly desired, and the folks who don't get such a slot would not be happy. I'd rather have instancing, but a rotation sounds better than this.”

How many days are there in the week? How many raid guilds are there? how many prime time hours?

Druz · Jul 25, 2015

-wycca said: ↑

“The rotations you claim are unfair are pretty perfectly fair. Every guild gets an equal shot at all NPC's in a line or in FFA - everyone has their own slot.

What some appear to want is a rotation that specifically caters to guilds/individuals who only desire to attack raid targets at specific times and under specific circumstances. You also seem to want a rotation that equally distributes loot.

What is proposed as "fair", is more akin to handicaps. Classic EQ is not a golf game. Classic EQ is not socialistic where everyone walks away with the same result for different inputs. While DBG wanted a rotation, it's a mistake to assume they necessarily want *your* vision of a rotation - or anyone elses. What they wanted was for guilds to talk and try to figure something out.

TL has made a proposal that is ultimately, the same thing that is working for Lockjaw *and* is apparently koshur to DBG. People seem to think that unless we accept what they demand, we're going to suffer. The danger is that a rotation forms without them or that DBG sees a good faith effort be ignored and decides to either drop the entire thing or accepts a proposal you would not even consider. Remember, most negotiating guilds start with 0-5% of raid kills on average and, for the most part, aren't even showing up for raid mob kills. With the exception of a single Lady Vox & Apok, which was bind rushed and barely won, none of the guilds coming to the table have any new mob kills under their belt. Guilds have had opportunities to do so while we sat back and waited. With only a couple of mobilization scenarios as the possibly exceptions (historically), if we've not been there for a spawn, we've let guilds engage without it becoming a dps race. So while there is not an ample amount of attempts under anyone's belt admittedly, guilds have had opportunities to kill and have not been able to do so. There's alot of complaining about a *theoretical* slice of the pie on mobs buffed mobs unkilled by any other guild on Ragefire. This isn't news to DBG (guilds not showing up, guilds failing, us giving them attempts & generally not being dicks), they've watched us, which is probably why we didn't just get gm ***** slapped or guild banned for the stuff people seem to think we do to make the raid scene "toxic". New guilds will, under no system or under a rotation, eventually kill mobs, but at this point, it is by no means guaranteed, even in their best hours.

While DBG could be looking at things drastically differently I'll admit, I think they'd take all of this into account if some guilds simply utterly reject a proposal brought to the table (a clone of one already approved and in operation on the other TLP server), by the guild that's currently showing up for and getting the vast majority of kills in a competitive manner. Your guild leader should be talking to Skyp and other guild leaders on this though.

They're seeking to leash us to some unknown extent and increase the opportunities for other guilds to potentially get kills. They have said nothing about everyone taking turns getting loot at your convenience or eliminating competition.”

The top guild on Lockjaw put forth a rotation a long time ago, and thus they got a better situation out of it. Twisted Legacy was unwilling to do a rotation until Daybreak forced them to, thus they lost their chance at a rotation that heavily favors them

All FFA mobs go Twisted Legacy. If they didn't, we wouldn't need a rotation. Any FFA mob in the rotation should just be tagged Twisted Legacy, the claim that anyone could get it is demonstrably false by the mere fact that we need a rotation.

I'm not suggesting we do zero FFA mobs, but one in between every Guild on the rotation is ridiculous.

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