Question for Devs: Is Overseer a Significant Source of Lag?

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Morigaine, Mar 6, 2021.

  1. Morigaine Elder

    I will be the first to admit, I have pretty much zero IT server knowledge but what is triggering this question is an observation from creating a new account recently. When I run overseer on my existing accounts, it has become much much slower to start quests, change tabs, and allow the agent restoration to occur when first clicking into overseer.

    My older accounts have roughly 800 agents per as a result of critical completions and no real outlet to use them. Once you get max level in the skill categories, there is no real reason to retire agents assuming you have them all.

    So my question came about as I was bringing a new account (with fresh overseer) onboard. That account's Overseer is lightning fast by comparison to the accounts with large agent counts. Is bulking of overseer agents creating any of the server lag because I know its very slow on my end? Also, if it is, maybe you could provide an outlet for excess agents other than quest category experience?

    Thanks
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  2. Skuz I am become Wrath, the Destroyer of Worlds.

    Procs
    Pets
    huge number of additional hits in the current game versus the earlier expansions

    Overseer likely plays a small part but it will be a lot lesser factor than the above, and actually the lag was an issue even before Overseer was introduced & if it made things worse it was hard to detect by how much if at all.

    A bigger increase in lag for many players was correlated with the moving of the location of the physical servers that took place, even my TLP server Phinigel felt far laggier after that move.

    Note that I say correlated & not caused above, the two are not the same thing, because even prior to that move of server location live servers had an issue with raid lag.
  3. Windance Augur

    Overseer can likely cause your UI to lag, but I don't like it is likely a major source of server lag.

    If you look at the overseer window you have:

    Quests:
    - up to 20 quests
    - party window
    - available agents <-- Which can have up to 181 agents

    Agents:
    - Agent List <-- Unlimited number of agents - original poster said he had 600 agents
    - Each agent has quest status and timer for incapacitated.

    Active Quests:
    - 5 Quests
    - 6 agents

    Status:
    - 11 category gauges
    - 11 overall stats

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Assuming they only send the overseer data once that's not too terrible. The Agent List is unbound as well, and will continue to grow as you get more agents and don't convert them.

    I've noticed the EQ client will pause when you select agents with no filtering. I've noticed that when you do a quest and do NOT filter the agents so you get 100+ agents in the window, the game freezes for a moment as it updates the window.

    I'm fairly sure that it is just client side. I don't see why they would be doing that on the server, and can't imagine that there are 100's or 1000's of people all doing overseer over and over at the same time.

    Bottom line. It probably is a good idea to continue to retire agents you don't need and just stock pile the Elite Agent Echo's until they give us something to use them on. I've got 30+ on my main.
  4. Svann2 The Magnificent

    Most lag is caused by actions taking place in zone.
    Not overseer.
    Not bazaar.
    Not pok (unless you are in pok)
  5. Jumbur Improved Familiar

    They could allow us to retire "grey" agents for tetradrachms or something. Once you have all of the "non-grey", you don't really need more agents...
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