Which trials do you need? Fear and subversion are simple with the right groups. Efficiency and destruction pretty much require a competent bard or enchanter while weaponry needs a well-balanced group of people that know what they are doing. I've had people tell me Ingenuity is the easiest while others say it's by far the hardest to tank. My group had two clerics and a good tank so I don't know. I worry most for the DPSers and tanks leveling in my guild right now. I don't know how much they have to grind or gear to be effective. I do know clerics just plain don't need OoW spells. They help, but I think other classes need them far more. I also have GINA timers for the Efficiency waves that just so happen to work for warning when the other trials are nearing their time limit too. I made the timers so I could sit to med as long as possible without worrying about the mobs rushing me and killing me. One thing I am unsure of is the gear required. Is the defiant enough with good players, or will tanks be destroyed? I suppose I will find out soon since a couple guild tanks are just about there in readiness now. I have all the trials done on my cleric Zunnar. I'm actively leveling my bard Zunnoab and I suspect he will be able to fulfill his roles at 65, but the resists may be too much at that level and the clear to the destruction trial would be dicey with snare resists since he wouldn't be high enough to split any other way. It's actually actively bad for an enchanter to use OoW mezzes within the trials because they waste mana that doesn't need to be wasted. I'm also leveling another cleric on another account, but she doesn't have Lesson of the Devoted and I am a bit worried about leveling her in time. I had four of my six trials at level 67 on Zunnar. CH is nuts and is why that's possible, but I don't know if most tanks can live long enough for it or if I've just been very lucky for the groups I've gotten. Did they devs ever give a date? I know it's "at least" three months but that's a bit non-specific. Anyway to get down to it all of my lockouts are out right now and I plan to try and get a guild tank and recruit to do some trials later tonight. The key is neither tank nor myself knows how well he'll be able to tank. He has been level 70 for quite some time now though. I've promised someone to help them with subversion Saturday if I can; it's their last trial. While getting the bard and second cleric leveled are priorities, I have no problem playing Zunnar to help out. It's just that guildies come first, obviously, but I'm considering tracking down everyone I've grouped with to see if they've gotten them. That might be unrealistic though.