Proc question

Discussion in 'Casters' started by Venaki, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. Venaki Elder

    As a group wizard, I can't decide which is better for dps between Tome of Obulus+conflagrant athame and the Hammer of Magic V proc from conflagrant 2h. Which one do you think will be best for a group wiz? I usually group with an enchanter, if adps in this situation means something, but I mostly solo/box without adps. Have those procs the same chance to trigger? Do both procs twinproc? Any help will be much appreciated.
  2. Fohpo Augur

    Have you considered Tome + Eldritch or another one hand damaging proc?
  3. Venaki Elder

    I haven't progressed much in EoK, and much less in RoS. I know that conflagrant are not BiS for a group wiz, but it's all I can get atm. And seeing how slow my brothers and I are progressing... I'm pretty sure I will be obligued to stick with conflagrant for a long, sad time. I know not much about wiz gear in those two recent expansions, so any input abput that will be appreciated, too!
  4. kizant Augur

    The problem with Tome of Obulus is that the damage proc isn't focusable. So, it doesn't benefit from Fury of the Gods. If you're going DPS then the 2h option is usually the better one. If you want mana then your first option sounds pretty good. Twinproc works for detrimental so probably not for the mana return procs. But then I never really looked close or paid attention to that.
  5. IblisTheMage Augur

    Wouldn’t the difference be quite small?
  6. Venaki Elder

    I don't know, that's why I decided to start the thread. By the way, even being a group wizard, I always want to do my best in all situations. There are yet many gear improvements I must do (mostly with augments), but I'm looking to improve little by little, day by day. So, as I said, any help will be more than welcome.
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  7. kizant Augur

    Well, Fury of the Gods isn't the only ADPS that comes into play. There's also manaburn and some other things like elemental arrow if you happen to group with a ranger and have an ice/fire proc. Ideally, I'd aim for The Fathomless Staff of Warding in RoS since it's cold based and has the same 9k proc.

    Is it a big difference? Not really if you're solo. Even a full burn it would only be around 3k dps more with 2h.
    https://goo.gl/7RVjei 96,666k on avg ~ 28.6k dps (Fathomless Staff)
    https://goo.gl/zbf1PC 85,835k on avg ~ 25.5k dps (Tome + Eldritch)

    However, in a more ideal scenario, burning with an Enchanter, it could get over 5k dps.
    https://goo.gl/2BCiKS 139,050k on avg ~ 41.2k dps (Fathomless Staff)
    https://goo.gl/nRM8Sb 121,564k on avg ~ 36k dps (Tome + Eldritch)

    Then an extra ideal scenario with a ranger you see it could hit 11k dps.
    https://goo.gl/BExUm7 188,144k on avg ~ 55.7k dps (Fathomless Staff)
    https://goo.gl/EqAL86 150,406k on avg ~ 44.6k dps (Tome + Eldritch)
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  8. Venaki Elder

    I was waiting for your answer, Kizant, thank you so much!
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  9. Thoxsel Djess' Pet Warrior

    What about the vp 2h? Same treatment as the fathomless? Or not because it is not ice/fire? (Think it is magic if I recall)
  10. IblisTheMage Augur

  11. kizant Augur

    It's focusable so the only real loss is elemental arrow which by itself isn't that big a deal. I'd definitely use it if I need a bit more mana.

    As far as 1h + tome the only time I actually use that combo is for the healing. It's useful for the Hoshkar raid or if we were doing the Trakanon raid. But outside that probably not.
  12. Goodn Augur

  13. Brohg Augur

    whoahey, bugged proc there. maybe you observed it late enough in the cycle to get another month in, but that's a 2h proc and 100% to be fixed when a developer becomes aware of it
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  14. Fohpo Augur

    This is why he makes the big bucks.
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  15. IblisTheMage Augur

    Tried to make a mike drop gif for him, but I can’t from an ipad.

    He can get a video instead.

    Kizant, you pissant, this if for you :)

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  16. kizant Augur