Post your Old Fixes and Nerfs that ought to be undone in 2024... I'll start.

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Montag, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Montag Augur

    Required/Recommended levels for items should not be a thing anymore. Who cares if your level one has 8000hp? He's just gonna get powerlevelled anyway. What purpose does it serve?

    Chanter stuns being on one timer hasn't helped anything. It's just limited AOE'ing to professional plvl'rs boxing 12 enchanters.

    Guise, Circlet of Shadow, Fungus Staff, Manastone and many others should keep dropping.

    Binding in Timorous Deep should always be enabled.

    Monk Tankiness should be reverted to early days cause once their DPS drops off they kind of don't have a role.

    MOTM should drop in all but the current expac.

    Honestly NoTrade should not be a thing anymore. As proven by Mischief and FV. At least on TLPs. What purpose does it serve? Less Farming? Almost all raid mobs have AOCs now.

    What else?
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  2. Slaps Journeyman

    Chanter stuns - I 100% can get behind this because as Oakwynd and other servers has shown, the only people who profit from this are the notorious botters which is apparent with anyone with eyes.
    I enjoyed AoEing with my 1 box enchanter and another buddies and it also helps with leveling up alts/boxes instead of the constant tedious grind.

    I would personally like to see Poknowledge unlocked from day # 1 on any new TLP and just lock the stones from expansions not unlocked yet.
    This would be a huge quality of life change for many who play 1 single character and eliminate a big portion of the druids in classic-luclin :)
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  3. Fluid Augur

    Guise of the Deceiver is ~sort of in game still. Still drops on Agnaar and from Gold Tickets/Casino. I'll check the Agnaar version to see if it still works on All.

    Wolf Form not adjusting faction. IMO this was done to punish Druids for being to strong early. The additional lack of functionality in later expansions was tacked on top of it so now it sucks more to start and doesn't improve until level 86ish IIRC. OK, we can only fear animals and use loads of our spells outdoors. The Harmony line is level nerfed such that you have holes in your leveling where it doesn't help. If this is fair, make Enchanters and Clerics only able to Charm, Fear, and Invis, indoors! For spitz and giggles I ran Stein of Moggok quest with a level 3 Enchanter recently. Also did it with an Erudite Wizard. Understand I still do it with my Druid but only after massive faction work.

    There;s a ton of things that would make Rogues viable. Poisons that stack for one. Everyone else got stacking items for trade skills. It isn't a question of undoing things, it is giving them the same benefits others have gotten.

    Nothing summoned can be sent via parcels. Lots of summoned items are Lore so you can't use them to progress in Conjuration w/o destroying the previous one. Kind of falls under your Free Trade Gripe.

    Bring back Lady Shae & Lokar To`Biath. I was questing with a couple of characters and couldn't get faction up. By the time they put it back in, it will probably be irrelevant to them.
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  4. jiri_ Augur

    Yes but also monk fist damage should be reverted too.
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  5. Velisaris_MS Augur

    Undo the body type changes.

    If they want to "fix" them, then fix them in the next expansion and go forward from there instead of deciding to globally change the game without even a hint of consideration about the consequences.
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  6. Dirkman Journeyman

    All AOE DMG spells should hit a max of 8 mobs
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  7. TLP Addict Augur

    The stun change was probably at the request of the big PL operators, can't have pick up AoE groups cutting into their profits.
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  8. Hdizzle Augur

    Fixing the Illusion / locked door mechanic (that's right, mechanic; not a bug :D).

    Let us fly..
  9. Slaps Journeyman

    I agree but its just wishful thinking :)
    AoE is sooo much fun in era and is dangerous for many of the players lol
  10. Bobbybick Only Banned Twice

    Give Halflings,Rogues, and Warriors their xp bonus back.

    Allow Riposte to hit mobs other than your primary target.
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  11. Labzeh Lorekeeper

    Lets have the Sleeper event script actually work for the 25th anniversary server
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  12. TLP Addict Augur

    Bring the CT revamp back to Luclin.
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  13. Montag Augur

    It doesn't. The pre nerf version stopped dropping a couple weeks into Kunark.
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  14. Montag Augur

    Body type changes?
  15. Montag Augur

    I'd rather that than the chanter stun nerf. AOE plvling has been around so long though it feels wrong to nerf it now. But it feels even more wrong to to put it almost exclusively in the hands of RMT'rs as it currently stands.
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  16. Montag Augur

    I thought rogues and warriors did still have their bonuses? It was just the racial expmodifiers and class exp penalties that were removed?
  17. Montag Augur

    Yeah a lot of revamps don't get added until they're too late to be useful.
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  18. jiri_ Augur

    There are some quests like this too.
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  19. Velisaris_MS Augur

    After ToL launched they did a global "fix" to mob body types. Mobs that were humanoid before suddenly weren't. Mobs that were live were suddenly undead, and vice versa. Mobs that didn't see thru invis/ITU/SoS suddenly could. You used to be able to run through House of Thule, upper floors to get to the other zones with just crap sees through it, making it hard as hell for level appropriate characters to get anywhere.

    It was a useless, needless change that f'ed up entire zones, all because some dev thought some mobs in ToL needed to be changed. They still haven't even begun to address all the problems it caused.
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  20. Vedian Lorekeeper

    I agree with most of this. Except for monks, only because I'm not that familiar with the change, and they seem plenty strong with their top tier DPS for a long time. In any era I'm familiar with, they don't need a buff.

    I'd even settle for changing all No Drops to Heirloom (which seems like it might have been a possible future change after Oakwynd, but I can't find a reference for that). Given some of the issues and drawbacks of personas, I'd rather see the Oakwynd legacy bonuses extended to other servers. Why not offer both? I'd gladly pay for an Oakwynd-style Legacy benefit feature on every account (xp bonus for alts, heirloom items, char specific DZ timers, flag/key sharing).

    Bring back dirge on unlimited targets but, if you have to, increase the mana cost a bit to balance it.

    Bring back the old headshot proc rate.

    Add holgresh elder beads to the list of drops that should remain active.

    Move the Casino back to LDoN unlock, where it was originally.
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