PLer toxicity discussion

Since the other thread got nuked, no doubt due to specific names being present, restarting the thread, since I feel it's an important topic to get addressed for server longevity. Please keep specific names out of the thread, just the concept of AE PLers being toxic in a general sense in an attempt to get the problem addressed.

You will never exp at the bottom of Chardok unless your paying Krono
You will soon never be able to exp in the frog part of Sebilis unless your paying Krono
You will get pulled overtop of
You will never use the general channels again because of the constant PL spam
You will be spammed for going within five feet of them
Welcome to the new meta of Everquest and the funniest part of it all is it is now worse then World of Warcraft sellers.

Every part of this is wrong, except the bit about never using general channels - but the reason for that is wrong. You don't use general channels because the general channels are spammy nonsense from solo players who have no friends and their guild is just another chat channel.

While the first two are hyperbole, it may be annoying to find those camps but there are open spots occasionally - the rest absolutely do occur with regularity.

Record them training you, submit petition. You will eventually whittle them down.

I've seen multiple for Teek of the same player show up on YouTube and they're still here a month later, FYI. (A menace in SolA and B)

They need to hire GMs to enforce the rules. Then most of the PLing will disappear. Though I think that they really don't want to.

3day, 7day, 14day. Doesnt mean it doesnt impact them

Even assuming they did (which I don't imagine they have had a penalty) - the cost to spinning up a new account is basically immaterial, and they're constantly working on "the next generation" with a portion of the krono they accrue.

The takedowns for such needs to be the entire associated squad, not just the puller or limited parts of the equation - and all of those that they trade krono around via to "launder" what they take in.

You guys complaining walk into camps when I have my regular group of guildies killing stuff with our enchanters stunning and we are automatically a "PL" group. Or when we pop a brand new pick and people come sit on your camp. Or when you think your opinion matters more than anyone elses. Or people snatch mobs out of your pull and die and then say you trained them. Its not just Powerleveler problems fellas, its a community problem.

Yea, i mean im not saying that youre going to eliminate PLers by doing this. But you will impact them. They cant get endless accounts banned without having issues. The biggest issue is that people just ignore getting trained, chalk it up to the norm and move on. Dont. Report them. They will get actioned.

Are people marking their advertisements as spam? Enough people do that, their accounts should get flagged even if they create new characters on the same account

I see a whole lotta complainin goin on around here and not enough problem solving. Half the server is paying for a PL if not over half, this means people just don't wanna level anymore so I say lets just cut out the middle man and turn this whole thing into a gacha system. We of course will not use call it that due to legal reasons, we will call it surprise mechanics instead.

You see we will add an egg into the store that costs a Krono to open, the goal of this egg is to get a SSS+ of the class you want in full tower gear. I get a SSS+ Cleric however I am after a warrior you see so I will continue to spin the eggs. Now I just opened a SSS+ knight weapon, I continue to spin the eggs. Finally I get a SSS+ Warrior however I now have a SSS+ knight weapon so now I want a knight so I continue the spin the eggs....

I personally think this system will solve all of this and should be added within the next patch while the server population is still good however if we wanna hold off and use it for a future TLP idea the TLP can be called Zebuxoruk and the eggs in the store will be in the shape of the egg we pop Zebuxoruk out of at the end of Plane of Time.

Personally, I like the AE PL'ers.

Most if not all of them are very kind and many of them will make sure you, the player, isnt being negatively affected.

When I was camping the Keeper of the Tombs for my Tainted Darksteel Sword, the vast majority of the PL'ers would make sure not to pull my camp, and every one of them, when they saw I died, especially if I died to their pull, were kind enough to res me and give me a couple hundred plat for my troubles.
In fact, I got my Tainted Darksteel Sword because they allowed me to just freely loot from the corpse after they did a pull.

I understand the whole "Zone Disruption" concept, but with the advent of picks, never once did I have an issue getting a camp in Seb, Chardok, or SolB. And the ones in the Hole were always kind enough to work around me.

All new servers are a challenge. What really is the issue here? The fact that there are groups of players leveling each other NOT charging Krono or the ones that DO charge the Krono? Or - the Trains? If it is #3 then the ruleset on Mischief is best for those players. My biggest complaint are the Mages/sks that block the progression of epics by selling the pieces. And that is on every server. As for Plers I just find another spot to level which is normally in the same zone but a different pick. If you really want free space there is always Tormax

If your "camp" is the whole or even half the zone, then yes, you are a problem. If you take up a whole pick, its zone disruption, doesn't matter what excuses you give. People walk in zone and get ran over by your "pull", it might not be intentional, but the guilds that do it sure don't stop.

It’s truly telling of the skill level of 98% of modern EQ players that they have to spend money to have someone else level them. It’s why I 6 box now that all of my friends have quit playing. I don’t understand how you can be so bad at this game you spend $$$ to level..

Lol

You guys realize people were AOEing zones in Luclin on Live right? If anything, the option to pay krono for powerleveling helps server longevity.

If you want a long lasting server...

STOP RECYCLING EVERY TIME THEY LAUNCH A NEW TLP!

FWIW I wish a few of these Plvler's were back on Mischief ^_^