Please Allow Baz /trader for Silver Veterans.

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Sybn, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. smash Augur

    However i also WORK at which point my char is also selling. So for me i can have char selling 14 hours IF i want.

    But i do not play the game for selling items.
  2. northstar Augur

    That is awesome, wish I was that lucky, on the other hand I have all day every day to game... What I don't have and not due to lack of ambition or desire is a lot of $$ to spend on 1+ however many accounts I need to sell and group with myself to play a game...
  3. Aurastrider Augur



    You say you are on a limited income yet you are going on smoke breaks. Now unless you are just using this term to stretch your legs a couple packs of smokes could pay for a sub if you are buying cheap cigs and one pack of name brand would almost cover a full months sub.

    On a limited budget you need to limit your spending. Multiple paid accounts on a limited budget is unrealistic unless you cut costs in other areas of your life. I get it life is tough and money is tight. Most of us have been there and some still are. Expecting the world around you to change because you want something is not realistic. You have control over what you have control over. If your choice is cigarettes over EQ you wont get any sympathy from me even as someone who use to smoke and understands how horribly addictive it is. Use this as an incentive to cut back and reward yourself with something or keep on burning your money up and then use lack of money as an excuse not to support the game.
  4. northstar Augur



    I smoke because I have Schizophrenia, smoking helps with the negative effects of my medication as well as symptoms of the illness.

    until you walk in my shoes please don't even begin to tell me how to live my life. I did not expect anything other than to have a way to pay for a very limited feature of this damn game.

    want to know the best part of this....

    I would like to see you stand up on stage and tell people with mental illness on how they shouldn't do what they need to do in order to cope. have a nice day.
  5. Aurastrider Augur



    I have worked in mental health units and yes smoking is ONE way to cope with the struggles of mental illness although on a physiological level it is actually a stressor. There are other healthier alternatives that are actually free. Yoga, meditation, adult coloring books (not free but relatively cheap), singing, playing an instrument, writing, reading a book...…. All much better alternatives.

    I have had patients with schizophrenia go months without smoking when that was their vice because they were not allowed to smoke on the unit. They learned new ways to cope. I am not trying to be insensitive to your disease but its like a diabetic saying they need to overeat when they are stressed out so its not their fault that their blood sugars are out of control and now they are losing a limb. Maybe try to see a mental health specialist if your insurance allows or spend some of your gaming time doing research on coping mechanisms and how to deal with your disease outside of smoking.
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  6. northstar Augur



    You are not my doctor, so yeah if you were a smart doctor you would realize some people cant stop smoking, as well it effects EVERYONE differently I have a very rare form of schizophrenia where I recall 98% of my psychosis with a photo memory.

    So not to derail this entire thread the whole point is to pay for a feature outside of subscription, the suggestion still stands. and I am not here for therapy lessons thanks.
  7. Balthozzar Elder

    How many features and improvements have been added to this game in 20 years that no one ever had to pay separately to get access to? Did we get all of those for "free" too? I am already subscribing to this game. I'm no freeloader. Should all QoL improvements to this game in the past or future be something that you have to pay extra for?

    I'm really not understanding why anyone would want the /trader and /buyer functions to only work when your account is locked into doing only that. The arguments I've seen here all come down to that it works that way now, and some people are willing to pay for a whole account to have a trader up all the time while they play the actual game on other accounts. (Actually, some will be paying for 2 extra accounts if they do tradeskills so that they can have both a /buyer and a /trader.)

    I stated my request as something that I thought would be a good idea, if it could be done within a reasonable amount of programming time. You know, something to add to the list of QoL improvements they already have in mind for when they can get around to it. (That we'll get for "free", btw.) On the other hand, the resistance to this idea has been so strident and illogical that it has made me think about it too much, and now I'm wondering if DB might be resistant itself to this idea because of the extra subscription money they get from people that don't want their traders and buyers to go down while they spend a few hours a day getting xp/questing/raiding or whatever else that they pay subscription fees for. Maybe the number crunchers have figured that the number of people that want what I want is much smaller than the number of extra paid accounts they get. If the reason not to grant this request is that cynically about the money and nothing else, at least that is a reason I can understand.
  8. Balthozzar Elder

    Well, that answered exactly none of my questions, so I guess there is no productive discussion to have anymore.
  9. KermittheFroglok Augur

    *Concisely* list what questions you feel other members of the community haven’t answered.

    To be honest I’ve stopped reading your posts because they’re generally just long winded demands for the Devs that don’t make business sense from either a revenue or development cost perspective. Frankly, and as others have alluded they could lose money or already scarce development time from your idea.

    Would the trade functionality you want be cool, sure, but in EQ’s case I’d rather keep paying a sub for trading and have the Devs work on more important things. Would it be great for everyone to have unlimited AA, sure everyone loves AA but it doesn’t make sense to do that from a business case perspective.
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  10. smash Augur

    Because people who subscribe Are paying for improvements to the game.
  11. smash Augur

    But i wonder if time for DBG to check if F2P has outlived it self. Now it has been in for many years. How many has gone from f2p to paying members, or bought items in markedsplace?

    Maybe f2p should be linked up to a paying member and if not linked you get max 2 months free to test if game for you, which is how many games are like.

    This would not effect TLP servers because they pay for playing there.
  12. Corwyhn Lionheart Guild Leader, Lions of the Heart

    I run a large casual guild and I see peeps come back play FTP a month or so then start subbing so I think it still works to get people back into the game.

    You could limit the time on FTP but I don't think it would be worth the dev effort. And there are players living on FTP that may not contribute via subs but help fill out the game population which does help keep others subbed.
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  13. Tutankamen Augur

    No way man. You want to load up a bazaar mule you can pay for a sub like everyone else. It makes total sense to limit it to gold because people with 8 accounts will crash the bazaar. If you like the game enough to play you can support it to keep it going. Stop being cheap.
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  14. Duder Augur

    Well put
  15. Balthozzar Elder

    ...and I do subscribe, as I said in what you quoted. That was my point. I'm not challenging the need to have a subscription to be able to set up a trader or buyer. The bazaar has seen multiple improvements since it's inception with Shadows of Luclin. There was no offline mode at all for years. I remember letting my computer run all night while asleep and for hours while at work for the trader to be up. That wasn't very friendly to my electric bill or the environment.
  16. Duder Augur


    Save the environment, amend the bazaar!
  17. Warpeace Augur

    Tell you what. Get Daybreak to finally put that door from guildhalls to the Baz and ill support FTP as traders.
  18. CrazyLarth Augur

    FTP is good for
    I use FTP for my trackers for hunter parked different or campfire in or 6 act to get raids - storage or to hunt collections in various zones they are parked in.
  19. Cragbeast New Member

    I relish the auto-scripter traders. I can't count the number of times I'll see an item i'm selling get my price script slashed by 1% only for me to purposely lower it to 1000, and wait, then scoop up the scripters goodies for free basically, and resell them back for a mil when i now hold all their valuable items

    dumb botters
  20. Duder Augur

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