Not A Bug OoW necro DoTs unaffected by 5/20 update?

Discussion in 'Resolved' started by Lyle, Jul 28, 2020.

  1. Lyle New Member

    Several OoW DoT spells are specifically named in the 5/20 game update notes:


    After noticing that the tooltips for these DoTs remained unchanged, I created a level 85 heroic necro on Miragul to test these spells, and after removing all focus effects and casting these DoTs I confirmed that they are ticking for the original, un-improved amounts:
    Chaos Venom - 473
    Pyre of Mori - 419

    It's a relevant issue because OoW unlocks next month on Mangler.
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  2. Soulbanshee Augur

    Chaos Venom and Pyre of Mori.
    Date Change
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Pvpresistcap from -159 to -500
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Pvpresistcalc from 136 to 123
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Pvpresistbase from -42 to -380

    Grip of Mori is the only one showing a damage change. Either had a database detachment issue when they went to save the changes, or patch notes should have stated spells after got damage increased.

    Date Change
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Slot 4 from "Decrease Hitpoints by 127 per tick. Max: 197 per tick" to "Decrease Hitpoints by 207 per tick. Max: 207 per tick"
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Slot 3 from "Decrease AC by 15 (L67) to 51 (L71) " to "Decrease AC by 39 "
    2020-05-20 03:53 Changed Slot 2 from "Decrease STR by 30 (L67) to 95 (L71) " to "Decrease STR by 70 "
  3. Lyle New Member

    Thanks, removed Grip of Mori from the original post
  4. MiataDriver Augur

    Did the mana cost on the OOW spells change? It is just to make it so you don't have to swap out spells and cast several expansions worth of DoTs. For OOW and earlier you still have to swap spells around, for anything newer than OOW, you can use only the current expansion DoTs and get the benefit of the increase in damage, with the higher mana cost.
  5. Lyle New Member

    The mana cost for these 2 spells does not appear to have changed either, but according to the patch notes it sounds like it should have increased along with the damage.

    As I said, the patch notes explicitly name OoW spells. And as Soulbanshee pointed out, one of the OoW spells (Grip of Mori) did in fact have its damage increased. Knowing these things, the notion that the changes were only intended to kick in after OoW doesn't make sense. Basically in order for that to be true, it would mean that both the patch notes were incorrect (for Pyre of Mori and Chaos Venom) AND the wrong spell was accidentally buffed (Grip of Mori).
  6. Lyle New Member

    Any dev comment on this issue?
  7. Lyle New Member

    OoW went live on mangler last week; necros there are still using the original, unimproved versions of these spells.
  8. Aristo Developer

    The named spells are where the stacking changes begin - Pyre of Mori doesn't stack with Pyre of the Fallen or anything higher in the line, just like Chaos Venom doesn't stack with Vakk`dra's Sickly Mists or anything higher in that line. In all cases, the first spell that starts the stacking rule doesn't get more damage because it's not 'rolling in' any damage from lower level spells it doesn't stack with.

    I tried to keep the patch note as simple as possible but that made it imprecise. Sorry for the confusion, but the damage you see in game for the spells in question is what was intended.
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