Confirmed Necro Grip spells not stacking like they should

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Jumvapace, May 20, 2022.

  1. Jumvapace The Most hated

    Encountered this several times during raid this evening. Necros are not able to land more than one Grip line of spells any more.

    05/20/22 08:12:30 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on a shadowstone grabber. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
    05/20/22 08:12:30 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on a shadowstone grabber. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
    05/20/22 08:21:37 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on Kratakel, Lord Misery. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
    Necro Grips have always been allowed to stack and have multiple dots. Only ever blocked by a Beastlord's Roar line, or SK's Dire (Convulsion/Seizure), because of the strength or AC Debuff (I forget which). After patch, it's not allowing necros to stack this line of dot with other necros. Older version of the Grip line are being blocked as well.
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  2. Rolaque Ancient

    Looks like the Grip line has been labeled as a debuff and is no longer considered a DoT, hence no stacking?
  3. Plumbus Lorekeeper

    They should just remove the strength debuff portion completely . It just causes problems .
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  4. zleski Augur

    Player A's Rank 3 Grip also blocks and overwrites player B's lower level Grip spell. I've seen this first hand.
  5. Soulbanshee Augur

    There's no changes since the spell was added. I am betting player B just got their rank 3 and that's why you are now noticing it. Player A and player B at the same character level casting the same rank would have been overwriting each other previously.
    https://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=63350&source=Live
    https://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=63351&source=Live
  6. Soulbanshee Augur

  7. Iribabh Augur

  8. Jumvapace The Most hated

    Nope. The spell didn't change. The way spell stacking on this last patch changed. The spell has always been able to be stacked by necros. Every necro can run their own Grip of Queiteus/Zorglim/etc... And they both go on the boss for damage. Rk. I, II, III could all be on the mob until this last patch. It has been a staple of guilds and raid forces to ban beastlord's Roar of Thunder, and SK's Dire Seizure/Convulsion lines because 1 of those spells will block all necros on a raid from using their Grip of XXX spell.

    Example from logs the Week before the patch:
    05/12/22 07:08:54 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 598034 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Whitestripe. (Critical Twincast)
    05/12/22 07:08:54 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 318273 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Critical)
    05/12/22 07:08:54 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 328273 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical)

    3 necros, all had Grip of Quietus on the mob. And different ranks.
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  9. Rolaque Ancient

    Druids have a similar line of dots, Tenebrous Sunray for example, which can be stacked on a mob.
    1: Increase Spell Damage Taken by 1916 (v297, Before Crit)
    2: Decrease Current Hit Points by 3020 per Tick
    3: Decrease Fire Resist by 94
    5: Limit Resist: Fire
    6: Limit Max Level: 120 (Lose 100% per Level)
    7: Limit Effect: Current Hit Points
    8: Limit Type: Detrimental
    9: Limit Type: Exclude Combat Skills
    10: Decrease Armor Class by 93 to 123, Based on Class

    There is just something screwy about Grip of Quietus, as in it's not behaving like a normal dot. It's acting like it's only a debuff, which would explain why it can't be stacked.
  10. Jumvapace The Most hated

    Looking much deeper into this, it's not always happening. It's more complicated than just 'no longer working' now. Same Mob/Same night/Same attempt this all happened:

    Rk. II was on and running, Rk. III was cast, Rk. II remained and both continued to tick:

    05/19/22 09:15:53 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 441271 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Critical)
    05/19/22 09:15:54 PM Dezrek begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.
    05/19/22 09:16:00 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 330429 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical)
    05/19/22 09:16:00 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 417471 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)
    05/19/22 09:16:07 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 349468 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical)
    05/19/22 09:16:07 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 542680 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)

    Rk. II was on and running, Rk. III was cast, Rk. II was overwritten
    05/19/22 09:27:28 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 343991 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)
    05/19/22 09:27:33 PM Dezrek begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.
    05/19/22 09:27:34 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 56343 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II.
    05/19/22 09:27:37 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell on Aten Ha Ra has been overwritten.
    05/19/22 09:27:41 PM Aten Ha Ra has taken 809098 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical Twincast)
    (Mob continued to take damage from Rk. III)


    FOUND THE ISSUE MID POST!!! And I'll be very not happy with SK's again, as it should be:

    It's Dire Seizure Rk. I and Rk. II causing the issues which is normal, but it's reporting as another necro's Grip Rk. III blocking it instead of Dire Seizure.

    Grip of Q RK. III can land even if Dire Seizure Rk. I or II are on it and will overwrite Grip of Q Rk. II:

    05/19/22 09:27:28 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 343991 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)
    05/19/22 09:27:33 PMDezrek begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.
    05/19/22 09:27:34 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 56343 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II.
    05/19/22 09:27:37 PMZimmak begins casting Dire Seizure Rk. II.
    05/19/22 09:27:37 PMYour Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell on Aten Ha Ra has been overwritten.
    05/19/22 09:27:41 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 227478 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak. (Critical)
    05/19/22 09:27:41 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 809098 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical Twincast)
    05/19/22 09:27:47 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 46127 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak.
    05/19/22 09:27:47 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 1172528 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical Twincast)
    05/19/22 09:27:51 PMWhitestripe begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.
    05/19/22 09:27:54 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 47183 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak.
    05/19/22 09:27:54 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 1337216 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical Twincast)
    05/19/22 09:27:54 PMAten Ha Ra has taken 477442 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Whitestripe. (Lucky Critical)
    Grip of Q rk. II and Rk. III were on AHR. DireSeizure Rk. II overwrote only Rk. II, not Rk. III. Both Dire Seizure and Grip of Q Rk. III continued to do damage till they wore off.

    Found all the instances in the log files from a few different raid forces. But:

    TL/DR - Necro Grip of Quietus spell Rk. I and II (when blocked by Dire seizure Rk. I/II while Grip of Quietus Rk. III is on an NPC) is falsely reporting that it's being blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III
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  11. Ratalthor Developer

    We have not been able to reproduce this yet.
    Are there consistent reproduction steps you can share with us? E.g. the order the spells are being cast in.
  12. Jumvapace The Most hated


    Everything is working properly stacking wise: but the wrong spell causing the block is being reported.. Steps to recreate:

    Step 1: Necro1: cast Grip of Quietus Rk. II {ID: 63350} on mob
    Step 2: Necro 2: cast Grip of Quietus Rk. III {ID: 63351} on mob
    --Before Necro1's DoT fades...
    Step 3:Shadowknight cast Dire Seizure Rk. I/II {ID: 62722/62723} on mob
    --Necro 1's GoQ will be overwritten)
    ---Before Necro2 or Shadowknight spells wear fade
    Step 4: Necro 1: cast Grip of Quietus Rk. II again {ID: 63350}
    --Necro1 will get the message-- Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on <MobName>. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
  13. Ratalthor Developer

    Thanks Jumvapace. When we tried those steps listed, we did not encounter the bug. Could anything else be affecting it?
  14. Evurkvest Augur

    Is the stacking issues with the SK spell and BST AA considered a bug or working as intended?

    Your Grip of Zorglim Rk. III spell did not take hold on Aten Ha Ra. (Blocked by Roar of Thunder XXIV.)
    Your Grip of Zorglim Rk. III spell did not take hold on Aten Ha Ra. (Blocked by Dire Seizure Rk. II.)
  15. Jumvapace The Most hated


    Ok.. I've spent waaaaay too much time testing and retesting and doing things using 3 necros and 2 SKs..using Grip of Quietus rk. I, rk. II and Rk. III... then Dire Seizure Rk. I and Rk. II... I couldn't test using Dire Seizure Rk. III.. because I don't associate with any Shadowknights who would waste a raid glowing spell on that one.

    Found a lot of other interesting bugs and stacking issues with these 2 spell lines as well. Not relating to the original bug stated, but:

    Because the spells both have a Strength debuff and an AC debuff along with the dot component, a lot of it has to do with the order in which spells land, couple of examples of some more stupidity with these lines:

    Scenario 1:
    Any Sk casts Dire Seizure Rk of any rank
    ---Any other SK can land their Dire Seizure spell, regardless of rank.
    -------No necro can land a Grip of Quietus of any rank until all Dire Seizure spells have worn off first.

    Scenario 2:
    Necro1 casts GoQuietus (any rank) on mob. (spell lands)
    Necro2 casts GoQuietus (Rk. II or III) on mob. (spell lands)
    SK casts DSiezure on mob.
    --Spell lands and overwrites Necro1 DoT
    ---Necro2 DoT remains on mob
    Necro1 Casts GoQuietus on mob again, and the spell will land!

    Casting in this sequence makes it so that from that point on, as long as the original necro maintains their Grip spell, you can put any rank of either spell.

    I know this new information isn't helping re-create the original situation, but it does have a lot to do with it. Everything matters as to what order the spells land that a debuff to STR or AC from the mob. It's causing stacking issues, and combinations that have to be jumbled so you can either land the best STR/AC debuff or land the lower str/ac debuff first, then stack dots after. It seems like a lot of extra work that most raid teams won't understand or execute properly to land all spells and cause a lot of fighting matches between the DoTing classes that aren't as coordinated as some raid teams.

    After learning about this new set of 'stacking' issues. I'm sure there was another str/ac debuff spell on the mobs where the incorrect message was produced. Because when I looked at one of the examples I provided in more depth: Dire Seizure had already worn off of the mob and only Grip of Quietus rk. II, III and Grip of Zorglim Rk. III from a necro still using the Combo DoT from CoV expansion.

    In the following example (and last one I'll give on this thread) both an SK and Necro have DSeizure and GoQ on 2 mobs at the same time. You can see both Dire Seizure Rk. II and Grip of Quietus Rk. III land and do damage (DSeiz rk. II cast first, GripoQ rk. III cast second). Then when I try to land GripOQ Rk. II on the 2nd mob I get the weird resist message:



    05/20/22 07:22:38 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 582497 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical) (Necro1 Dot on Mob1)

    05/20/22 07:22:38 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 411697 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Critical) (Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:22:38 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 48103 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak.(SK DoT on Mob1)

    05/20/22 07:22:44 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 495639 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:22:44 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 230629 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak. (Critical)(SK DoT on Mob1)
    05/20/22 07:22:44 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 455679 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical)(Necro1 Dot on Mob1)
    05/20/22 07:22:47 PM Zimmak begins casting Dire Seizure Rk. II. (SK Casting DoT on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:22:47 PM an amorphous vampire's heart is wrapped in a grip of darkness. (SK DoT landing on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:22:50 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 47093 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak.(SK Dot on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:22:50 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 254740 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak. (Lucky Critical)(SK DoT on Mob1)
    05/20/22 07:22:50 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 456277 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical)(Necro1 Dot on Mob1)

    05/20/22 07:22:50 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 407748 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:22:55 PM Dezrek begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.(Necro1 Casting DoT on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:22:56 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 400856 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:22:56 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 49114 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak.(SK Dot on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:22:57 PM an amorphous vampire staggers under a firm grip.(Necro1 DoT Landing on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:23:02 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 417455 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:23:02 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 453143 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 2)
    05/20/22 07:23:02 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 258253 damage from Dire Seizure Rk. II by Zimmak. (Lucky Critical)(SK Dot on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:23:08 PM The Primal Vampire has taken 462213 damage from your Grip of Quietus Rk. II. (Lucky Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 1)
    05/20/22 07:23:08 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell has worn off of The Primal Vampire.(Necro 2 DoT Wears off Mob1)
    05/20/22 07:23:08 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 347503 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 2)
    05/20/22 07:23:09 PM You begin casting Grip of Quietus Rk. II.(Necro2 Casting DoT on Mob2)
    05/20/22 07:23:11 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on an amorphous vampire. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)(Sad Times for Necro2)
    05/20/22 07:23:11 PM You twincast Grip of Quietus Rk. II.(Necro2 Wasted his life)
    05/20/22 07:23:11 PM Your Grip of Quietus Rk. II spell did not take hold on an amorphous vampire. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)(Necro2 Stabbed and no reach around)
    05/20/22 07:23:14 PM An amorphous vampire has taken 290766 damage from Grip of Quietus Rk. III by Dezrek. (Lucky Critical)(Necro2 DoT on Mob 2)
    The last things I can guess is that-
    1. There's another Str/AC Debuff from some other class also messing with this.
    -Or-
    2. The SK debuff faded (notice no SK damage for last 2 ticks of Necro1's Ticks at 7:23:08 and 7:23:14), yet still the mob was flagged as having the STR/AC debuff from the SK.

    I would be happy to send you my entire log file so you can dig through the whole parse and see what other spells landed on it/where active at what times. But I think I have to be done digging through the logs, line by line for this unless I start getting paid for T/S fees.. and sorry after my time in ATC maintenance, you don't want to pay what I charge, although it would be nice to see some friends at SPAWAR San Diego again ;p.

    Suggest removing the STR/AC Debuff from the Necro line of this DoT, as no one would ever use this spell for that purpose (Hrmmm maybe less calculations needed for less lag?). Or at least change the spell data so that they can both be ON the mob, but only the 'best' debuff is applied. Either of these 2 solutions would alleviate so many problems and hatred between Necros and SKs. (I haven't even TOUCHED the stacking issues both these spells have with the BST AA 'Roar of Thunder')
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  16. zleski Augur

    I ran into this again last night on a raid. Relevant log lines:

    Code:
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:29 2022] Mirytauro begins casting Grip of Quietus Rk. III.
    ...
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:30 2022] You begin casting Danvid's Grip of Decay.
    ...
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Doomshade staggers under a firm grip.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Mirytauro hit Doomshade for 28452 points of cold damage by Spike of Ice. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Mirytauro hit Doomshade for 37234 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Mirytauro hit Doomshade for 6060 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice. (Twincast)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Mirytauro hit Doomshade for 60396 points of cold damage by Nightchill Strike. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:31 2022] Doomshade is frozen by an icy blast.
    ...
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade's muscles begin to decay.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 57035 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice I. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 71006 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice II. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 27804 points of cold damage by Spike of Ice. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 39468 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 62690 points of cold damage by Nightchill Strike. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is frozen by an icy blast.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Your Grip of Zorglim Rk. III spell did not take hold on Doomshade. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 57035 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice I. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 69518 points of cold damage by Surge of Ice II. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by ice.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 129375 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 138416 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Lucky Critical Twincast)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 39480 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 36191 points of disease damage by Perfusion of Plague. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by disease.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 65514 points of cold damage by Nightchill Strike. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is frozen by an icy blast.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You twincast Grip of Zorglim Rk. III.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Your Grip of Zorglim Rk. III spell did not take hold on Doomshade. (Blocked by Grip of Quietus Rk. III.)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 63635 points of cold damage by Nightchill Strike. (Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is frozen by an icy blast.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 138357 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 129375 points of magic damage by Hammer of Magic. (Critical Twincast)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is struck by magic.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You hit Doomshade for 68399 points of cold damage by Nightchill Strike. (Lucky Critical)
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] Doomshade is frozen by an icy blast.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You are healed... reluctantly.
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:32 2022] You healed Zleski for 1577 (123517) hit points by Reluctant Lifeshare XXII. (Lucky Critical)
    ...
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] You sense 87 enchantment(s) on Doomshade:
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Namdrows' Roar Rk. III [Raiena] on Doomshade has 00:00:24 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Pyre of the Neglected Rk. III [Whitestripe] on Doomshade has 00:00:48 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Infected Wounds Rk. III [Whitestripe] on Doomshade has 00:01:48 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Eye Gouge XXXVII [Milobel] on Doomshade has 00:00:18 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Lower Element III [Omnip] on Doomshade has 00:04:36 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Scent of The Grave Rk. III [Dezrek] on Doomshade has 00:15:24 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Turgur's Insects [Toransa] on Doomshade has 00:07:12 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Twisted Shank XXXVII [Padraigg] on Doomshade has 00:00:30 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Pyre of Va Xakra Rk. III [Zleski] on Doomshade has 00:00:00 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Cascade of Decay Rot XX [Zleski] on Doomshade has 00:00:36 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Malosinetra Rk. III [Toransa] on Doomshade has 00:21:12 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Bloodwalker's Synergy Effect [Snakein] on Doomshade has 00:00:12 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Infected Wounds Rk. III [Zleski] on Doomshade has 00:01:48 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Turgur's Diminishment VIII [Toransa] on Doomshade has 00:07:54 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Pyre of Va Xakra Rk. III [Mirytauro] on Doomshade has 00:00:00 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Cascade of Decay Rot XX [Mirytauro] on Doomshade has 00:00:30 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Scourge of Destiny Rk. III [Mirytauro] on Doomshade has 00:00:36 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Pyre of Va Xakra Rk. III [Whitestripe] on Doomshade has 00:00:36 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Called Shots Effect [Keloden] on Doomshade has 00:00:24 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Jugular Rend Rk. III [Hothar] on Doomshade has 00:00:06 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Extinction Rk. III [Zleski] on Doomshade has 00:00:00 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Scrutiny of Ro Rk. III [Aeaan] on Doomshade has 00:13:18 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Bloodbeetle Swarm Rk. III [Ianya] on Doomshade has 00:00:36 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Two-Finger Wasp Touch XIV [Mten] on Doomshade has 00:00:30 remaining.--
    [Sat Aug 20 20:52:43 2022] --You sense Bond of Bynn Rk. III [Barrtt] on Doomshade has 00:00:12 remaining.--
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  17. Jumvapace The Most hated

    Interesting, as I went through those logs as well and didn't see Roar of Thunder or Dire Seizure cast at all on that raid... I did get 3 run away emotes, so I can't be 100% sure. But it is pointing again to other buffs that debuff 'Str', and the necro casting the combo dot version from last expansion. Again, the dots themselves don't block each other, but what is being reported to the player is false and incorrect.

    The thread is marked as 'confirmed' so, hopefully they know what is causing it, and just haven't put it in a patch yet.