Confirmed Lag at end of raid events.

I think its something to do with achievements thats causing it, if there are any achievement spam it causes chat lag until it displays it.

The new bits and points update has caused terrible chat lag every time a raid chest opens.

Horrible raid lag tonight on Drinal after this weeks patch, first raid night tonight. Every raid, instance, spell casting, global refresh all in the dumps. Usually its an event or instance here or there for me at least. Its everything now.

Yes, I can attest to the lag. It was about the same for me *during* the event, but after the win, holy moly lag o matic!

Already posted here:

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/coin-still-can-be-lost-in-a-raid.285604/

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[Sun Sep 25 19:07:44 2022] You have defeated the Primal Vampire, for now. It will surely return.
[Sun Sep 25 19:07:45 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sun Sep 25 19:07:45 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sun Sep 25 19:07:46 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sun Sep 25 19:07:46 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sun Sep 25 19:07:47 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
...
[Sun Sep 25 19:09:52 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Points.

This is new. We've never seen these notifications before. And in the 2 minutes between receiving 'Named Bits' and 'Points', the instance was lagged to all hell, tells and channels didn't work, all communication was frozen. Everything un-froze the moment we received 'Points'.

And it's happening in every single raid now. Win - Bits - LAG - Points.

The October update included additional logging. If this issue is still happening to your group, can you PM me the time/date of the lag, which server, and which zone/raid you encountered the issue in? Thanks!

its definitely still happening, we had one particularly bad one last night. I'll see if I can dig up some timestamps etc and send them over.

Can also confirm this is still happening, on every ToL raid apparently. Definitely Zelnithak, Netherbian Swarm Commander, Doomshade, Aten Ha Ra, and Shei Vinitras. Those were the ones we did last night, and they all exhibited the large lag spike when we won the event.

Spike happens between event completion and the guild achievement announcements. All text is delayed, including chat channels.

Seems to be worse if there are more achievements to check/award, but that could be anecdotal.

If you encounter a long delay at the end of a raid event, please let us know the time, timezone, raid event, and server you were playing on. Relevant client logs would be especially helpful, i.e.

[Wed Dec 14 14:43:51 2022] NPC has been slain by Player!
[Wed Dec 14 14:43:52 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Wed Dec 14 14:44:33 2022] You have been granted the following reward: Points. <- long delay before Points were awarded

Thanks

Definitely still happening on Luclin.

These timestamps were from mountain time.

12/13/22 06:01:10 PM The Primal Vampire has been slain by Detrolyn`s pet!
12/13/22 06:01:17 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
12/13/22 06:01:18 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
12/13/22 06:01:19 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
-----> Lag happening here
-----> Lag stops here:
12/13/22 06:02:43 PM Drizerker tells the group, 'dont think those two could of died closer together'
12/13/22 06:02:43 PM Kialya tells the guild, 'attempting rez on Detrolyn'
12/13/22 06:02:43 PM Ullrick tells you, 'lag gone, maybe ? (this is a hot key)'


12/13/22 06:49:49 PM Kratakel, Lord Misery has been slain by Days!
12/13/22 06:49:53 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
12/13/22 06:49:54 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
12/13/22 06:49:54 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
12/13/22 06:49:55 PM You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
-----> Lag happening here
----> Lag stops here:
12/13/22 06:51:47 PM Fenanebae tells the guild, 'nice job'
12/13/22 06:51:47 PM Ullrick tells you, 'lag gone, maybe ? (this is a hot key)'
12/13/22 06:51:47 PM Gromutt tells the guild, 'Night all , see ya tomorrow'

Same thing always happens, for us.
Anything that happens in the instance, messages, ports, anything simply stops from the reward until the first message appears in guildchat. Usually that lag is close to two minutes long, but there is definitely some variance as you can see above.

if that is helpful I can dig up a few more events from last Sunday.

We've added some more diagnostic logging to try to figure out this issue, but it's been very elusive.

Couple questions:
- Has anyone seen this delay happen if no one in the raid died, zoned, or logged off?
- If more people are dead does the delay get longer, or is it a random duration?

We've definitely had the lag without people dying/logging off. I cannot comment on zoning, as I can't confirm that from logs.

This is what I do know:

The delay applies whether or not the reward script runs on your character. This means you can leave the dz prior to the event dying, not get the reward, and experience the same lag as someone who receives the reward.

However, the length of the delay is a function of the number of people receiving the reward. This means if many people leave the dz prior to completion (and, therefore, do not receive the reward), the lag for everyone declines substantially, including the people receiving the reward.

Bristlebane Server:

[Sat Feb 04 09:44:30 2023] Hashiss has been slain by Sammy!
[Sat Feb 04 09:44:35 2023] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sat Feb 04 09:44:36 2023] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sat Feb 04 09:44:37 2023] You have been granted the following reward: Named Bits (Flags).
[Sat Feb 04 09:45:38 2023] Your Adventurer's Perk has granted you bonus currency.
[Sat Feb 04 09:45:38 2023] You received 11 Spiritual
Medallions

[Sun Mar 26 16:34:05 2023] Hashiss has been slain by Sufi!
[Sun Mar 26 16:34:10 2023] You have been granted the following reward: Insatiable An Appetite: Undevoured.
[Sun Mar 26 16:35:31 2023] Your Adventurer's Perk has granted you bonus currency.
[Sun Mar 26 16:35:31 2023] You received 22 Spiritual Medallions.

[Sun Mar 26 17:08:50 2023] Manifest Drowsiness has been slain by Armaggedan!
[Sun Mar 26 17:08:54 2023] You have been granted the following reward: The Spirit Fades: Success.
[Sun Mar 26 17:08:54 2023] You have been granted the following reward: The Spirit Fades: Conscientious Liberation.
[Sun Mar 26 17:09:50 2023] Your Adventurer's Perk has granted you bonus currency.
[Sun Mar 26 17:09:50 2023] You received 22 Spiritual Medallions.

[Sun Mar 26 19:01:04 2023] Vius Vex has been slain by Bahlswet!
[Sun Mar 26 19:01:49 2023] You have been granted the following reward: Under Siege: Won't-o-Wisp.
[Sun Mar 26 19:03:08 2023] Your Adventurer's Perk has granted you bonus currency.
[Sun Mar 26 19:03:08 2023] You received 22 Spiritual Medallions.

From what I see it's a 1-2 minute lag script.

Wow. Never knew perks gave extra raid currency.

This lag is still happening. It does not seem to matter if anybody is dead, dc, or zoning. Most of the time in our raids, nobody is dead or dc, everybody is in the zone, and we get this lag every time.

It definitely has to do with achievements. The more achievements are completed by the more people - the longer is the delay.

The easiest way to reproduce it in the current expansion is the Door (Shadow Haven) raid. In a typical win there, you get all 3 achievements. And a significant delay at the end, especially with 50+ players in the raid.

On which server and in what era are you getting Doomshade to spawn? He's been broken for a year or more. Thanks.

Doomshade is a ToL raid, not the old spawn in Maiden's Eye ... that is still broken unfortunately.

Why fix things when you can just slap confirmed on them and move on?