Up until now, I've played classic a bit as a kid and TLPs once every few years. I know boxing has always been a thing, more and more as time's gone on and more and more accepted (even trying to talk about it AT ALL in the discord in any way other than raucous support and praise gets you dogpiled, for example lmao) and I get that the majority of the most active, long-term players are either older and richer or loaded with more krono than they know what to do with these days, and decide the benefit of boxing when it's allowed is worth pursuing. I get that it's become pretty much a part of the culture at this point and macro/boxing guides are just freely spread across the community in broad daylight, I know that the devs refuse to ever try a non-boxing TLP even once and even the idea being vaguely brought up freaks the hell out of a ton of the playerbase, and even 'truebox' isn't really enforced at all because more subs / krono being bought for more accounts = more money, blah blah blah. I get it, I get it. I used to HATE it but over time I've grown to try and force myself to accept it more because it's certainly not going away; I accept just hunting random mid-level mobs for raw plat and fine steel instead of ever being able to camp any named in the game when literally everyone has 3+ level 50 mages sitting on every one in every channel. I've come to accept that parties of like 1 or 2 people + me filling out all 6 spaces is acceptable as long as they're even remotely competent at actually playing boxes. I've come to accept a LOT of things so that my enjoyment of TLPs isn't diminished so bad by how other people choose to play their game and spend their money. But it's come to the point... I don't think I've had a single group in the 2 months of this server without at LEAST one or two boxes in/out of group... with more people getting more lazy and complacent to let their in-group boxed priests just sit there at full mana half the time, to let their bards just literally afk /melody and nothing else at all. And as I've been partying in the hole lately, I'm nearly *the only person* in *any* group I join without *AT LEAST* one extra out-of-group 50 healing, buffing, etc. If I bring it up in any way, people snap at me for just playing 'easy mode', or start bragging about how they actually box 4-6 or even more but only 'felt like' having one down here to help at the moment...Guilds are filled with boxes and people beg for gear you could badly, badly use for your main as an upgrade for their boxes even if their main's decked out to hell and back, and classes like the priests seem utterly pointless to play when there's an absolute freakish surplus of clerics, shamans and druids being boxed around every group in every space at a high level. It's become rare to even see any priests IN a group, everyone already leveled theirs during exp events and just park them around as extra boxes. As someone who doesn't box, doesn't want to box and is never going to box, do I literally even have any use or point in the game anymore? I played ENC main specifically on this server to try and feel like I was playing something that it's best to main and pay attention to so I can do my best and make the parties flow easy without feeling like I have any empty time I could be doing more stuff on a box, that people would *expect* at this point, but even that is uttelry unnecessary at this point -- not only do MANY high-level groups have, yes, out-of-group 50 enchanters buffing, slowing and CCing, but even without ENCs everyone on the entire server has a seemingly infinite supply of storebought clarity potions, haste and no need at *all* to CC even in the hole due to so many out-of-group priests healing, rooting, slowing and even tanking. I'm literally sitting there scrambling to do anything I can to "feel alive" in groups, throwing incidental buffs like brilliance/insight, str/ac debuffs, wimpy enc dots, charming the best stuff I can and making sure everyone has celerity instead of just augmentation, but it still really honestly feels like my lack of presence would slow the party's speed by like 1% at most. And I'm NEVER anywhere near as geared as everyone's boxed alts, much less mains, no matter how much I play or how much money I accrue by whatever means necessary, lmao. Is there anything I can do WITHOUT boxing to feel like I even belong in this game or am any help to anyone at all? I keep coming back to EQ because of that feeling of interdependence and comradrie, but now that everyone solves that for themselves with more or less every single semi-serious player having at LEAST one box and endless storebought pots and buffs, is there anything I can do to even vaguely get that feeling fulfilled? I'm serious here, this is one of my favorite games and definitely my favorite MMO (and I've played pretty much all of them) and I don't want my love for it to just be squashed forever at feeling like there's nothing I can even do to have any weight or purpose or help anyone out in the game. Maybe a main bard with full attention and full use of all my potential utility? Maybe a main monk pulling machine with every ounce of funds going toward pushing him to his absolute limit, especially as iksar are almost out? Is there really anything? TL;DR: no one doesn't multibox, at LEAST 2 and often more characters, usually played well, well equipped and willing to help groups oog; what, if anything, can I as a solo player do to feel relevant?