Yet all evidence says that 20 years is typical. My argument is that the next 20 years that are going to be difficult I'm not saying that EQ is a mud. I'm saying that it is like a mud with regard to the player base and expected longevity of the game. People don't just leave for the next cool thing like they do in some genres. They build a community here and will want to stay for the long term. It's why there's so little interest in some EQ3 idea because nobody wants to start over with a new game. They just want to make the one they like better.