Illusions I would like to see

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Braveheart, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. June1999 New Member

    Don't you think that they should actually fix illusions first before requesting new additions?

    In case you did not know, what you see is not what everyone else sees. This defeats the whole point of having an illusion. I could post scores of examples in screenshots where the illusion is horribly bugged. It all depends on when the illusion was cast and when a player loads in to that set.

    Given that many illusions are sold for actual cash, I would say this falls under lemon laws. Whereas the product does not work as advertised.

    The Plaugebringer, as one small example, in most cases looks to others like a pirate. Short characters who change retain their short size, large characters retain their large size. Armor textures come up missing in a lot of cases. Baldness is rampant throughout the illusion set. There are very few illusions that actually work.

    Illusions need to be hard coded, not cached with an arbitrary reference tag.

    Otherwise, what is the point?

    I know some illusions were bugged since the start, but they did used to work properly in most cases. (Size bug being one of the oldest.) When I played team PvP the illusions were very important and did work most of the time. That was over a decade ago, and this has never been fixed.
  2. Rainbowdash Augur

    Holy small text Batman.

    Also that only happens with new models OoW+ (any packed into an .eqg). For some reason if it uses any texture but 0 (base) and you zone out then back in, the MESH defaults to texture 0 but the TEXTURE usually remains the same causing them to map improperly (The Satyr bard/rogue/ench mask) though sometimes they default to texture 0 too, causing the texture/mesh to map properly but it's not the right texture for the illusion (plaguebringer).

    But then again. This texture for the gnomework model was broken after Underfoot. Still broken today...
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    The BP for Vah Shir (at least female Vah Shir) seems bugged. If you have a plate BP on, and take it off (Don't ask why I'm taking my bard's BP off.....kitties are cute ok??? :( ) the plate portion disappears but the chain underlay remains. Even when "naked". Only does it with Vah Shir and only with the BP.

    The back of the plate hands for male Vah Shir is missing

    The leg animations of female Iksar are all sorts of screwy (The right leg lifts halfway up into the air when sitting, one of the feet breaks and turns 90 degrees at the ankle when dead. etc)

    Male elves (Dark Elf, Half Elf, Wood Elf, High Elf) when using a shield while mounted has the shield twisted around and clipping through their arm and chest. It actually looks like they punched their fist through their shield.

    etc etc.

    They fixed the black Eye of Zomm texture issue (granted...after several years). I'm sure it'll be fixed eventually. (Incidentally I can post many more of the old models with similar texture issues to the Black Eye issue. One example being the "spines" of drakes and the old alligators. The grey background is supposed to be invisible, leaving only spikes and ridges on their backs. At the moment the spikes and ridges are emblazoned on a big grey rectangle sticking out of their back. Yet another Classic model transparency issue.)

    Also remember... making a new illusion is as simple as adding it to global load, making the spell, and slapping it on an item. Fixing a model, like that, (which is the entire model, it's not limited to illusions) takes much much more work.
  3. CaRnon Augur

    why suck a stickeler to the "chanters already have that" rule... darl elf illusion prenerf/casino drop is all/all from inventory and chanters cast that same goes with illusion potions...

    Who cares if chanters already cast it... other non chanter classes would like to see some orginal illusions be avialalbe to us. Not like its a game defining ability that chanters only had that effects the actual play of the game like clerics res spells going to other classes. Just because one class has a certain ability does not mean others should not get that ability.
  4. Braveheart Augur

    they should up the drop rate of Vah Shir meat so illusion pots would be easier to farm. You can kill 100 mobs and only get 1 meat.

    better yet, make a vendor that sells all race meat. Place it in a zone with mobs that would eat every race.
  5. Nissassa Elder

    Rogue usable Air elemental would be nice, The illusion is already in the game just need to implement a new item w the click for Rogues or add them to the bard item =)
  6. CaRnon Augur

    that almost as bad as the wrath of the Rangers? 8)
  7. Trevor Elder

    There are no enchanters to be up in arms about it. No one plays them anymore.
  8. Nefar New Member


    Those models are awful, sorry. There are much, much better ways of updating the models. The first image of the air elemental looks like a middle aged man with no legs.
  9. Moklianne Augur

    I have two simple ones:
    High Elf
    Half Elf
    It would be nice to cast these illusions without consumables (potions) or a rare item from an Ashengate raid (High Elf)
  10. Yinla Ye Ol' Dragon

    Make a rogue, both are easily obtainable as masks.
  11. Tarvas Redwall of Coirnav, now Drinal

    I just wanna dwarf clicky for my ranger :(
  12. Moklianne Augur

    If I wanted to play another class that has access to these illusions, I would just make an Enchanter....
  13. Mellifleur Augur

    IIRC Lockjaw back in 99 era would have meat on him of PC's he killed.
  14. Mellifleur Augur

    The wife does, and although she enjoys it, its becoming more and more of an issue where she gets frustrated with her ever declining roles.
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  15. Lingum Elder

    Hence why I no longer play my enchanter. Nice to see you again.
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  16. Tarvas Redwall of Coirnav, now Drinal

    Dwarf polymorph wand plesor!
  17. EverChanter Augur

    This is such stupid reasoning... All the people that ask for chanter illusions for every class would piss and moan if we were given YOUR abilities. "Wtf there's a chanter doing headshots". "Omg look at that gnome chanter backstab the mob for 130k!"

    How about this, you advocate for chanters to wear plate armor the next time you ask for our abilities?
  18. CaRnon Augur

    I dont personally care what chantes get... I am asking for something for other classes.. NOT yours... sorry I hurt your fragile feelings by asking for something as simple as a illusion...

    go ahead and wear plate armor.,.. dont care if you did.,.. Other classes get cleric abilitys all the time.. and they are bigger things then casting illusions..

    Like shammys heal over times over writeing cleris hot's with the next expansion.. Other classes getting some sorts of res/call to corpse type spell... it happens all the time... and with more important things then illusions.

    You being worried about others casting illusions at this point in the game seem very silly to me... and comparing something like illusions to headshots or backstabs is just stupid.
  19. EverChanter Augur

    Well I'm glad you feel that way, because now we are going to push to get 96% rezzes. And lol about your fine with other classes getting cleric abilities, you must be new to the game. Clerics yelled FOR YEARS about this very topic, and it's very possible that merc classes were created to deal with the attitude of clerics at the time.

    It doesn't matter what you want or what you think is silly, you think you're entitled to something and in this case your wrong. Cry moar.
  20. Rainbowdash Augur

    Just FYI, since the post you made that EverChanter replied to was originally directed at me, I'm not concerned about other classes getting illusions. I'm saying, if it's already an enchanter's illusion (like all the player races, or the old froglok) it shouldn't be considered for an SC item. I also think if it's in LoN it shouldn't be SC either. NOTE: I do NOT count different textures of a race for this 'rule' of mine. For example, I have no issue with the new siren illusion that will be added to SC soon because it's the texture with the crown and bone skirt, the texture used for the LoN illusion is the stark naked one. As such, I wouldn't mind the chainmail wearing Classic froglok, or the undead Classic froglok, going into SC as a polymorph, but the naked generic Classic froglok texture, the one enchanters get, I'd be upset if it went into SC. If it's a different texture, even of the same race, it may as well be a completely different race. Some people prefer one texture over another. For example I'd love an illusion of the Erillion soldier texture of the Alarans, but would puke if that naked yellow Windsong archer model (the same race, mind you) went in cause I find it ugly as heck.... same scenario. Many people prefer the stark naked sexy Siren from LoN over the bone wearing evil man-killer Siren that is going into SC. Again...same scenario.