How to destroy the 3rd party Krono market in 1 easy step

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Scoober, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. discordkitty Augur

    I'd love to pick your brain. I only want to use krono as a way to pay for my sub, not to be a huge RMTer. I'd like to buy in game with plat and consume but I lack the ability to farm plat. Never been a strong point for me in game though I've played since 99
  2. NameAlreadyInUse #CactusGate

    Buying a krono from DBG is a "real money transaction". DBG does everything in their power to encourage you to be the biggest RMT-er they can get you to be.

    I do not understand all this imagined stigma around "real money transactions". It's like thinking people are bad because they got wet in the rain. Or thinking women are evil because they have a period or that men are evil because they get erections. It's a normal part of life. Why do you insist on making it more difficult for everybody by spreading hatred over normal behaviors?
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  3. Aurastrider Augur

    I wish they would just nuke threads like these. Players that want things before krono obviously were not playing much before they came out. I can pull up countless in game emails from RMT players before the krono trying to sell plat and power levels. Since the krono not one. You are not going to outsmart peoples ambition to make money so let's stop this nonsense that only impacts those who don't RMT but use krono. They are the only ones who will be impacted by this.
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  4. sieger Augur

    Krono could potentially be designed better; but RMT market is a totally separate issue. The WoW token is basically RMT-proof due to its design, but WoW still has tremendous RMT in various forms as do all MMOs.

    There's probably an argument to be made that for Daybreak, copying the WoW Token may be a better thing than the current krono system. Blizzard generally doesn't design systems to make themselves less money, the WoW token as designed basically forces them to be consumed (i.e. moved off the books.) We've seen DBG employees mention here that "unconsumed krono" function almost like an accounting liability until consumed.

    I'm not sure the WoW Token system is better for the gamers though. Something to remember in WoW is the gold price is set based on region, EQ servers are very small and it would be difficult to emulate that sort of approach, and the pricing of the non-tradeable krono would likely be prone to wild swings and other problems.
  5. yerm Augur

    Wow began with gold sinks and adjusted and added to them over time. They also attempted to balance the inflow and maintain it, including heavy nerfs to drop rates in obsoleted content.

    Eq did not get designed with similar outlets for plat. Tradeskills eating plat costs directly, casino, nobles... these don't appear in force for several expansions. On top of this, input does not seem to have been balanced until ldon - loy and earlier have silly plat spots that can be abused, such as rathe hgs or sg or ac. On top of that, eq has the ability to mass plunder way beyond wow levels, eg bard dirging or pbaoe teams, that can rake in cash. Finally, tlp eras have varying lengths, so a server like coirnav enters god with way more circulating plat than selo did, for example.

    The result is a direct artificial gold sink wouldn't work in eq 1:1 as a plat sink. Tlps are too varied. Player bank accounts are too varied. You don't have most/average people pulling in relatively similar volume of plat, or relative parity between tlps hitting an era. Some folks are filthy rich while others refuse to touch qvic molds. Some tlps have massive accumulated money in circulation while others have much less.
  6. NameAlreadyInUse #CactusGate

    Tradeable loot and contested content. Those are the only two useful discussion points. Private /picks for the win.

    Plat/gold "sinks" are absolutely non-issues in any game, because they punish the poor disproportionately more than the rich. A poor person might dread that $500 speeding ticket, it might mean they can't make rent that month. But a rich person can pay that fine daily and never notice the effect on their wallet (until their license is revoked).

    The point is that the only way that a "sink" would have a meaningful effect is if it scaled with player wealth, and that's impossible because players spread their wealth over multiple accounts.
  7. Scorrpio Augur

    Huh? What currency transfer? Plat and items farmed on a server stay on that server. Stuff changes hands, sure, but not a single copper leaves a server or comes in from another server, krono or no krono. Sure there are character transfers, but those have little to do with krono and are generally only allowed between same-rules live servers.

    Krono is no more no less than representation of real money. Before krono was even a concept, a player could score a rare item on server X, put it up on craigslist for $50, sell, and then buy $50 worth of stuff for his twink on server Y. How is it different from krono? Only in that game company does not get a cut, and it hurts further development budget.
  8. Yummydain New Member

    Read my post again, its at the end of the first paragraph.
  9. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    WoW does have gold sinks but they have still had problems with inflation over the years as the gold sinks don’t always work when players don’t need to use them.