How is boxing a grp of toons, a game design flaw?

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Whulfgar, Mar 30, 2022.

  1. Strawberry Augur

    The amount of people who use voice chat in games is hugely overrated. It's always a minority of the community that uses it.

    Game developers and tech companies often get this wrong, especially US developers who don't understand that the rest of the world consists of people speaking thousands of different dialects. But even in the US, use of voice chat is limited.

    Nintendo seems to be one of the few gaming companies that understands this. They have gone to great lengths to support different text chat features in Animal Crossing, a game with a healthy worldwide community.

    Research shows that people value text chat much higher than voice communication.

    70% of gamers in this study said text-based communication is a "must-have" in multiplayer games, but only 40% thought voice chat was a "must-have".

  2. Truetotheblue Augur

    One of the things that I would imagine skews voice chat data in surveys is how the question is worded. People could interpret it as "does the game have to have voice chat?" When in reality they're looking through it from the lense of just they'd rather use discord as opposed to an in-game option. WoW is a good example of this. Has in game voice chat that barely anyone uses because everyone uses discord. So I'd take that with a grain of salt.
  3. Smokezz The Bane Crew

    If you hate this community so much Strawberry, why are you here and not playing another game with a so called better community?
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  4. Yinla Ye Ol' Dragon

    Then the guild I'm in aren't normal! 90% of the guild use discord.

    Curious, how do you go about finding a group?

    Do you log in and just put LFG on?
    Do you log in and say in general chat that you are LFG?
    Do you say to your guild LFG?
    Do you go to a zone and say LFG in OOC or Shout?
    Do you go to multi zones and say LFG in OOC and shout?
    Do you send tells to the many random people you have grouped with in the past to see if they have a spot?
    Do you try and form your own group?

    As an experiment today, I decided to see how long it would take me to find a group, I knew my usual group wouldn't be around. From my log.

    Less than 3 minutes to log in find a group and start killing. Had I not got a group I would have gone and done some of the anniversary stuff I'm missing.
  5. Vumad Cape Wearer

    Pepsi also out performs Coke in blind taste tests but Coke has higher sales. Need a pie chart?

    It's not just marketing. This is because in blind taste tests, people tend to pick the sweeter item. Pepsi is sweeter than coke, so in a sip, Pepsi comes out ahead. But for a few refills at lunch or a case in the pantry, Coke wins.

    That's the fun thing about statistics. You can change the graph by changing the data. Change the data by changing the test.

    On the other hand however, if you look at the EQ % of players who box and those who don't, I bet it would match up pretty well to that second pie chart.

    And one last point. I immediately mute voice chat on my Xbox. PUG people are ridiculous. I always join TeamSpeak however with my guild. Your pie charts above can also be explained very easily by the fact that the 30% of the time I play is with friends and I want voice chat, and 70% of the time I don't want to listen to heavy breathing or your conversation with your mother.
  6. Strawberry Augur

    The fact so many people have resorted to boxing to circumvent the difficulties of making a group, tells me that grouping does not happen as efficiently for everyone as you make it seem.
  7. Benito EQ player since 2001.

    You are applying a sweeping generalization. Some people don't want to group at all for the following reasons (and not for the lack of groups):
    • Competing for loot.
    • Playing multiple classes.
    • Challenge.
    • Work and family obligations which requires them to leave for periods of time. (Time management and Ninja AFK).
    • Relaxation.
    • Bad experiences (drama).
    • Psychological concerns (social phobia, sensitivity)
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  8. Angahran Augur

    You mean because you can't find a group then nobody can find a group so you want to fundamentally change the game so that you can find a group easier while penalizing anyone who doesn't want to group with you ?
  9. Smokezz The Bane Crew

    I suspect he acts just like he does on the forums, in game... and people wouldn't group with him no matter what. One of those gets in a group and throws a fit if all of the other people won't go where he wants to go. If he doesn't get his way, he leaves.
  10. Strawberry Augur

    I don't personally attack people. There is a reason I generally ignore your posts my friend.
  11. Smokezz The Bane Crew

    Just observations. LOL. But that's ok, you keep ignoring things that don't suit your narrative.