How 'bout that Crippling Slicer?

Discussion in 'Tanks' started by Tucoh, Mar 19, 2019.

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  1. Tucoh Augur

    [46589] Crippling Slicer
    Target: Self
    Resist: Beneficial, Blockable: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 3m+ (30 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    2: Cast: Crippling Snare on Skill Use (350)
    3: Limit Skill: Block
    4: Limit Skill: Dodge
    5: Limit Skill: Parry
    6: Limit Skill: Riposte

    [46591] Crippling Snare
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic
    Reflectable: No
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 7.5m+ (75 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    2: Decrease Melee Haste by 50%
    3: Increase Disease Counter by 25
    4: Decrease DEX by 105
    5: Decrease AGI by 115
    6: Decrease STR by 115
    7: Decrease AC by 45

    vs

    [39909] Tendon Slicer
    Target: Self
    Resist: Beneficial, Blockable: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 3m+ (30 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    2: Cast: Tendon Slice on Skill Use (450)
    3: Limit Skill: Parry
    4: Limit Skill: Block

    [39910] Tendon Slice
    Target: Single
    Range: 250'
    Resist: Magic
    Reflectable: No
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 3.5m+ (35 ticks), Dispelable: No
    2: Decrease Melee Haste by 50%
    3: Increase Disease Counter by 25

    vs

    [39914] Crippling Guard
    Target: Self
    Resist: Beneficial, Blockable: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 3m+ (30 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    2: Cast: Cripple on Skill Use (350)
    3: Limit Skill: Block
    4: Limit Skill: Dodge
    5: Limit Skill: Parry
    6: Limit Skill: Riposte

    [39915] Cripple
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic
    Reflectable: No
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 7.5m+ (75 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    1: Decrease DEX by 105
    2: Decrease AGI by 115
    3: Decrease STR by 115
    4: Decrease AC by 45


    On

    https://items.eqresource.com/items.php?id=160626

    https://items.eqresource.com/items.php?id=161226


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    What's next, type 5 augs having equally high amounts of hAgi/hDex/hSta on them?
  2. Frael Elder

    [IMG]

    Looks like it's broken though.
  3. Chaosflux Augur

    Or it could just be the tooltip. Youd have to see, test it on some mobs in CR or something that is fully allowable it becomes painfully obvious if it is or isnt then.
  4. Schadenfreude Augur

    The text is broken, the effect is fine.
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  5. Frael Elder

    Well, I did say 'it looks like'. I have no evidence one way or the other, if you have proof it's fine I'd be interested in details.
  6. Schadenfreude Augur

    Equip old slow belt, have belt proc.
    Equip new combination belt, have belt proc, old slow is overwritten.
  7. Chaosflux Augur

    Youd have to actually see it work on the mob delay. Broken spells can overwrite lesser spells (that work) since it's still technically a higher rank, overwriting logic is separate the working logic in the code. Granted pretty sure its just tooltip as I said earlier.
  8. Schadenfreude Augur

    I await your testing (or anyone else for that matter) that proves it's broken and just not a buggy tool tip in that case.
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  9. Chaosflux Augur

    I am playing on TLP sorry bro I havent done GMM, I actually agree with you its probz a tool tip error, but am open to the possibility it isnt working, because its EQ and they release broken stuff alot.

    I dont know if their tool tips parse and render off the spell dat or not. I havent kept up on the intracacies of modern EQ code.
  10. Schadenfreude Augur

    [IMG]
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  11. Syylke_EMarr Augur

    Can confirm that it is NOT broken, just an incorrect tooltip.

    No belt proc:
    Code:
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:06 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:09 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:12 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:15 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:18 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:21 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:24 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:27 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:30 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:33 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:36 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:39 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:42 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:45 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:48 2019] A leaf drake bites YOU for 1 point of damage.
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:48 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:51 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:51 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:54 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:00:57 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:01:00 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:01:03 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:01:03 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:01:06 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but misses!
    Old belt proc (Tendon Slice):
    Code:
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:31 2019] You begin casting Tendon Slice.
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:31 2019] a leaf drake slows down.
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:31 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:37 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:43 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:49 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:02:55 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:01 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:07 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:13 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:19 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU block!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:25 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:03:31 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    New belt proc (Crippling Snare):
    Code:
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:37 2019] You begin casting Crippling Snare.
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:37 2019] a leaf drake has been crippled.
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:37 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:43 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU block!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:49 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:07:55 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:01 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:07 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:13 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:19 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:25 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:31 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
    [Tue Mar 26 11:08:37 2019] A leaf drake tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
  12. Parker Elder

    Where is said belt from please? Raid, TBL, GMM or what?
  13. Khat_Nip Augur

    GMM group and raid version.
  14. Parker Elder

    Thanks!
  15. Insaneox Augur

    Lost Gypsy Belt for the Knight classes now so grats casters for pushing a nerf to increase classes that want your belt now.
  16. Repthor Augur

    good warrior will just get the melee belt and have it as a switch out after the mob get slowed and their slow belt is pointless on raids after shammys get around to slowing their mob(applys to all tanks ofcorse). so wile knight get the caster version id asume. warriors will just get the melee one and gain some dmg

    it was a cool thing they tried to do then over nerfed . seeing as the cripple version is so low lvl compared to the new cripple and the slow is shared between many many classes it was a cool utility they tried that they now over nerfed and is now wasted design time

    oohwell time to move on
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  17. Pirlo Augur

    Ngreth eats and drinks whine threads and poops out muhbis.

    He was one of us, remember? He laughs at the outrageous posts and considers the well thought out posts

    A mage didn't get this item nerfed.....50% slow and cripple got this item nerfed
  18. Lubianx Augur

    Whilst it is very strange that the first nerf to the "double proc" belt occurred straight after the post, it was most likely coincidence.
    However now that the individual slow and cripple belts are being nerfed as well you have to wonder considering these have been around since TDS.
  19. smash Augur

    I do not like the nerfs for my own crippl slicer chars, however it is a necessary act. They are too powerful.
  20. p2aa Augur

    I completly disagree. This was not a flat 50 % slow reduction, and having a slower class with you you can land a better slow than this.
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