Highest DPS class in the game?

Discussion in 'The Newbie Zone' started by Arcaine, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. Badname0553. Elder

    Highest dps in game for grouping is hands down Wizard. Rank 2 spells are way stronger then group weapons. Casters require less support to shine then melee. Group dps is basically a series of chained together burst fights. Bursting classes having the advantage of being able to manipulate out of combat regen to their needs better and the fact that wizards have one of the highest mana regen rates in the game makes them very solid sustained as well. This also translates into raids should your plans change.

    Mages are pretty good in the group game as well offering CC and solid tank at the loss of ports, mana regen and dps.

    Zerker, rogue and ranger all can excel with zerker edging out in burst and rogue probably barely winning in sustained. But all 3 require 2-3 support classes to be anywhere near a caster.
  2. SyDiko Augur

    Can you (or anyone) please explain why this statement is wrong? I'm ignorant, yet very curious at the same time.
  3. Goth Augur

    Wizard may be the most DPS but they are also probably the most boring class to play. Wizards are very independent on a group for their DPS. Having a bunch of wizards around will make things die fast and work well for box armies. just use hotkeys and chain ethereals.

    Play something fun and use a caster DPS merc.

    A real wizard will do more DPS than a caster dps merc sustained with group gear and decent AA.
  4. Everstorm Augur

    ditto
  5. Potawatomi Augur

  6. Badname0553. Elder

    The proc from this spell line doesn't give them endless mana it just adds to the tide of effects they help them keep chugging along. Wizards are still very much able to go out of mana when they want to for huge burst numbers. However, a well played wizard utilizing all his tools can delay going out of mana for quite a while. Which is why everyone calls them burstained now. Its a cumulative effect of what Aristo has granted them via this spell proc, spell harvest and aa that allow it to be reused two times in row when needed, various self and support buffs classes granting mana regen to the levels of lich. Its the effect of what Chandrok has given them with various mana return clicks from class robes or other items, specialization augs, shawl procs, mana return augs, mana prez effects. Its the effect of what Eli has given them like AA harvest, mana prez aa, mana regen aa, mana regen familiars as well as what other support classes have received in regards to mana regen support. Add all that up and wizards have very sneakily nickeled and dimed themselves to necro regen levels of regen both passive and with on demand tools while maintaining their burst niche. And because no one buff, ability or click stands out as the reason this is happening its been left alone and continues to grow as mana pools, aa regen, buffs and clicks are added. Add to this in the group game they can use the advantage of burning threw mana to make OOC regen work for them better then most classes who can't dump their dps as effectively.

    Pair this with the fact the most boosts to nukes don't stack and are instead now being used back to back to back in some cases taking the period of raised burn from 30-90 seconds to upwards of two minutes. Takes what was a intense burst class into a ongoing burstained machine.
  7. Beimeith Lord of the Game


    This is a pretty accurate summation, however there was no "sneakily" about it. We asked, as we have always asked, for more BURST damage, as that is our class role, but instead of that, we got more sustained abilities. Several suggestions have been put forth to change this back to the way it was, but it is up to them to do them.

    As for Claw, Claw was added for the express purpose of letting Wizards go for about 15 minutes before they have to med, and it does that well. It is certainly possible to go out of mana with it, especially in the group setting.
  8. Badname0553. Elder

    I will still view it as sneaky when one class has lich or death bloom thrown back in their face and stagnated relative to other buffs for years to then laughingly have it nerfed. When other classes have been allowed to keep theirs when its almost the EXACT same regen as lich passively just from a few factors and the EXACT same burst regen as death bloom just from a few factors. Its sneaky since it doesn't fall into a single buff like lich or a single click like deathbloom and thus remains under the radar despite being 10 times the issue to the game that deathbloom was.

    The greatest trick being pulled on the dps and balance dynamic is convincing the devs that burstained doesn't exist. And since its the creation in bits and pieces from all the team they leave it alone.
  9. SyDiko Augur

    Thanks for the explanation, it makes total sense while staring at end-level spells.

    Now this is certainly an interesting turn of posts, finally a class emerges that can maintain top tier D.P.S (damage per second,) while maximizing burst damage. If this is truly the case, then the answer to the original question, "What is the highest damage dealing class in the game?" is a Wizard.

    (and I believe someone said that a few posts above!) :D
  10. Phrett Augur

    Go with wizard. For a raid burn with full support a good berserker will smoke a Wizard, but again that's a specific situation with all the proper support classes for a short amount of time... wizards won't be too far behind, will eventually pass the dmg as you get into sustained territory, don't rely quite so much on support, and are good dps in the group game. Wiz is the safer (dare I say easier!?) choice.
  11. Arcaine Elder

    good question - I was wondering this as well.
  12. Yesway Augur

    No
  13. DuchessElindra Elder

    "No" doesnt answers to "How" :/

    Its an interesting question tho
  14. Goth Augur

    im pretty sure to get all the relevant DPS AA will be less than 3k AA. Probably less than 1500AA if you are only after the DPS stuff.
  15. Yesway Augur

    Sorry, basically was just saying you don't need all the things asked. It takes decent focus gear and probably less than 1000 aa's to be able to beat a merc dps with a wizard.
  16. Kaneras Augur

    Wow rogues are barely mentioned here. How things have changed.
  17. Explicit Augur

    Wizard, because berserkers need 3-5 other classes to produce the same levels of DPS. I've played both for years and years, I've raided on both, wizard is more fun if only because of its independence.

    That being said, entirely in the group game (group gear, etc) -- a wizard cannot be beaten if played correctly.

    Edit: Regardless of what you end up as, be sure to get in touch with the community for that particular class to make sure you're not missing out on anything. Speaking from experience, both the wizard and berserker community are more than happy to help with DPS rots, burns, and general knowledge.
  18. Saave Augur

    LOL
  19. Tharrg Augur

    Warriors..... Look at the charts... we take more dps then any other class. =)
  20. Fansy Augur

    I see they are still up to their math tricks about what is possible not being possible based on the all knowing guy.

    Wizard but they are on team evil and should be getting a selo's kick to the crotch soon. As it is bad for one class to do what they do. Win burst outside of rare and amazing zerker and regen better then necros to almost win sustained and also win group.