I want to know if they plan to fix the partisan quests in The Broken Mirror. Fate Has No Rewards (I believe thats what its called) is broken.
hi id agree i think u guys are doing a great job with eq, my monk is useful again as can melee with pet tanking. One suggestion is there any chance at all you guys could look at putting an unattuner in marketplace, The perfect aug distiller is in both loyality and marketplace, it would be great if the unattuner was the same) id be buying them from mp if i could)
As called out prior, this patch preview is NOT a complete list of changes coming up in February's patch. Since it's come up more than a few times in this thread, adding "Fixed issues preventing the completion of a number of group missions" to the list of additional things that are coming in this patch.
Wow... Italic AND bold font on that one! Please make the following changes though: font size 5, all caps, and a hideous color no one can read. Then, no one could tell Roshen apart from any other EQ forum poster
I really like the patch preview, awesome to know what's being worked on and what we can expect to see this month. Thanks Roshen for the update, keep up the hard work over there.
Whoever is making these decisions lacks any understanding of the purpose or history of the abilities they are copy-pasting. Every iteration of Warrior/Knight weapon balance adjustments have not only failed to address the issues, but gone on to break the game further. We need to wipe it all and start over, not continue one-upping the level of bad and broken. More info here.
The goal of this patch isn’t to stop players that want to get aggro from doing so. It’s to help DPS players have a better time when they're in group/raid settings... and not pull aggro in situations where everyone is doing their job to manage their aggro. In order to clarify which spells will be impacted by the next patch we've compiled a list of affected spells. Note that the fix to the aggro generation code only impacts spells that damage their target and also have a specific hate override. Spells not included in this list should not have their aggro generation changed from what is currently on live. /shout INC WALL OF TEXT! These spells will generate MORE aggro because it's not reducing your hate twice. Spell ID | Spell Name | Hate Override 26022 | Noira's Strike | -815 26023 | Noira's Strike II | -882 26024 | Noira's Strike III | -979 29117 | Hykast's Strike | -1077 29118 | Hykast's Strike II | -1131 29119 | Hykast's Strike III | -1188 35167 | Kaficus' Strike | -1337 35168 | Kaficus' Strike II | -1404 35169 | Kaficus' Strike III | -1474 40495 | Empowered Clash | -1000 40496 | Empowered Clash II | -1000 40497 | Empowered Clash III | -1000 44070 | Fjilnauk's Strike | -1585 44071 | Fjilnauk's Strike II | -1664 44072 | Fjilnauk's Strike III | -1747 49123 | Sporali Strike | -1000 49124 | Sporali Strike II | -1000 49125 | Sporali Strike III | -1000 49183 | Shrouding Speed Shock | -23787 49184 | Shrouding Speed Shock II | -24977 49185 | Shrouding Speed Shock III | -26226 5841 | Roar of Thunder I | -250 5842 | Roar of Thunder II | -500 5843 | Roar of Thunder III | -750 11206 | Roar of Thunder IV | -750 11207 | Roar of Thunder V | -750 11208 | Roar of Thunder VI | -750 12520 | Roar of Thunder VII | -750 12521 | Roar of Thunder VIII | -750 12522 | Roar of Thunder IX | -750 13805 | Roar of Thunder X | -1000 13806 | Roar of Thunder XI | -1200 13807 | Roar of Thunder XII | -1500 16750 | Roar of Thunder XIII | -1500 16751 | Roar of Thunder XIV | -1500 16752 | Roar of Thunder XV | -1500 41594 | Roar of Thunder XVI | -1500 41595 | Roar of Thunder XVII | -1500 41596 | Roar of Thunder XVIII | -1500 47066 | Roar of Thunder XIX | -2000 8160 | Pyromantic Ignition I | -150 8162 | Pyromantic Ignition II | -300 8164 | Pyromantic Ignition III | -500 12713 | Pyromantic Ignition IV | -650 12714 | Pyromantic Ignition V | -800 12715 | Pyromantic Ignition VI | -1000 13694 | Pyromantic Ignition VII | -1100 13695 | Pyromantic Ignition VIII | -1200 13696 | Pyromantic Ignition IX | -1300 23515 | Pyromantic Ignition X | -1400 23516 | Pyromantic Ignition XI | -1600 23517 | Pyromantic Ignition XII | -1800 27611 | Pyromantic Ignition XIII | -2000 27612 | Pyromantic Ignition XIV | -2200 27613 | Pyromantic Ignition XV | -2400 32148 | Pyromantic Ignition XVI | -3400 32149 | Pyromantic Ignition XVII | -4400 32150 | Pyromantic Ignition XVIII | -5400 37011 | Pyromantic Ignition XIX | -7400 37012 | Pyromantic Ignition XX | -9400 37013 | Pyromantic Ignition XXI | -11400 41718 | Pyromantic Ignition XXII | -11400 41719 | Pyromantic Ignition XXIII | -11400 41720 | Pyromantic Ignition XXIV | -11400 21702 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike I | -300 21703 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike II | -400 21747 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike III | -600 21749 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike IV | -800 21768 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike V | -1000 21775 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike VI | -1200 23629 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike VII | -1200 23630 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike VIII | -1300 23631 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike IX | -1400 32154 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike X | -1400 32155 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XI | -1400 32156 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XII | -1400 37162 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XIII | -1400 37163 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XIV | -1400 37164 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XV | -1400 38270 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XVI | -1400 38271 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XVII | -1400 38272 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XVIII | -1400 41254 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XIX | -1400 41255 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XX | -1400 41256 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XXI | -1400 48631 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XXII | -1400 48633 | Inquisitor's Judgment Strike XXIII | -1400 These spells will get you LESS aggro because it's not making them hate you twice. Spell ID | Spell Name | Hate Override 6727 | Dragon Fang | 400 6752 | Leopard Claw | 300 7269 | Dragon Fang | 400 8821 | Graybeard's Acorn | 200 8843 | Jenaki's Essence | 200 15937 | Fervor Strike | 100 15961 | Fervor Strike | 50 16129 | Harmonious Arrow Doom | 500 17042 | Harm Touch | 2783 20892 | Fervor Strike | 50 20916 | Fervor Strike | 100 20940 | Fervor Strike | 200 26073 | Lyrin's Spite | 288 26074 | Lyrin's Spite II | 313 26075 | Lyrin's Spite III | 348 26788 | Windstrike | 100 26789 | Flamelick | 100 26790 | Icesnap | 100 29171 | Hykast's Spite | 383 29172 | Hykast's Spite II | 402 29173 | Hykast's Spite III | 422 29910 | Windgust | 100 29911 | Flamebrand | 100 29912 | Frostchill | 100 32102 | Harmonious Arrow Doom | 500 35218 | Kaficus' Spite | 475 35219 | Kaficus' Spite II | 499 35220 | Kaficus' Spite III | 524 35958 | Windgust II | 100 35959 | Flamebrand II | 100 35960 | Frostchill II | 100 38024 | Harmonious Arrow Doom | 500 38922 | Vial of Time Slime | 100 39893 | Deepwater Toxin | 100 40242 | Technique of the Crimson Fist Strike | 20 40243 | Technique of the Crimson Fist Strike II | 20 40244 | Technique of the Crimson Fist Strike III | 20 40447 | Eminent Strike | 10 40448 | Eminent Strike II | 10 40449 | Eminent Strike III | 10 40993 | Harm Touch | 7617 44106 | Fjilnauk's Spite | 550 44107 | Fjilnauk's Spite II | 578 44108 | Fjilnauk's Spite III | 607 44750 | Windgust III | 100 44751 | Flamebrand III | 100 44752 | Frostchill III | 100 36553 | Vicious Spiral | 230 36554 | Vicious Spiral Rk. II | 230 36555 | Vicious Spiral Rk. III | 230 45230 | Vicious Cyclone | 230 45231 | Vicious Cyclone Rk. II | 230 45232 | Vicious Cyclone Rk. III | 230 28212 | Vitriolic Strike | 1847 28213 | Vitriolic Strike Rk. II | 1939 28214 | Vitriolic Strike Rk. III | 2037 34199 | Vehement Strike | 2241 34200 | Vehement Strike II | 2353 34201 | Vehement Strike III | 2471 43196 | Virulent Strike | 2595 43197 | Virulent Strike II | 2725 43198 | Virulent Strike III | 2861 31067 | Hero's Toxin Poison Strike I | 1840 31067 | Hero's Toxin Poison Strike I | 1840 33482 | Hero's Toxin Poison Strike II | 1840 33482 | Hero's Toxin Poison Strike II | 1840 33919 | Turn Summoned IX | 450 40933 | Turn Summoned X | 1850 40934 | Turn Summoned XI | 2650 40935 | Turn Summoned XII | 3750 41753 | Turn Summoned XIII | 5250 41754 | Turn Summoned XIV | 7750 41755 | Turn Summoned XV | 9250 48989 | Turn Summoned XVI | 11000 35101 | Zalikor's Fang | 622 35102 | Zalikor's Fang Rk. II | 592 35103 | Zalikor's Fang Rk. III | 564 11076 | Gathering Dusk I | 3000 13656 | Gathering Dusk II | 8000 16682 | Gathering Dusk III | 10000 48922 | Gathering Dusk IV | 20000 48924 | Gathering Dusk V | 35000 48926 | Gathering Dusk VI | 40000 48928 | Gathering Dusk VII | 50000 22540 | Assault | 3358 22541 | Assault Rk. II | 3928 22542 | Assault Rk. III | 4500 13218 | Envenomed Blades Strike I | 300 13753 | Envenomed Blades Strike II | 300 13754 | Envenomed Blades Strike III | 300 13755 | Envenomed Blades Strike IV | 300 16656 | Envenomed Blades Strike V | 300 16657 | Envenomed Blades Strike VI | 300 16658 | Envenomed Blades Strike VII | 300 31631 | Envenomed Blades Strike VIII | 300 31632 | Envenomed Blades Strike IX | 300 31633 | Envenomed Blades Strike X | 300 37101 | Envenomed Blades Strike XI | 300 37102 | Envenomed Blades Strike XII | 300 37103 | Envenomed Blades Strike XIII | 300 41621 | Envenomed Blades Strike XIV | 300 41622 | Envenomed Blades Strike XV | 300 41623 | Envenomed Blades Strike XVI | 300 48853 | Envenomed Blades Strike XVII | 300 48854 | Envenomed Blades Strike XVIII | 300 32336 | Decapitation I | 3071 32337 | Decapitation II | 3318 32338 | Decapitation III | 3584 41092 | Decapitation IV | 3609 41093 | Decapitation V | 3634 41094 | Decapitation VI | 3649 41674 | Decapitation VII | 3737 41675 | Decapitation VIII | 3787 41676 | Decapitation IX | 3856 38134 | Arcane Fusion | 1000 48806 | Zan Fi's Echo of the Tiger Strike I | 1000 These spells are being increased so that they generate as much or more hate as they currently do. The Shadowknight Terror line of spells is getting an increase starting with the level 67 spell Terror of Discord Spell ID | Spell Name | Old Hate Override | New Hate Override 5292 | Serene Command | 1400 | 2800 5329 | Terror of Discord | 1800 | 2800 8483 | Theft of Agony | 1200 | 2400 10188 | Lesson of Penitence | 1680 | 3360 10189 | Lesson of Penitence Rk. II | 1750 | 3500 10190 | Lesson of Penitence Rk. III | 1820 | 3640 10257 | Terror of Vergalid | 2160 | 3360 10258 | Terror of Vergalid Rk. II | 2250 | 3500 10259 | Terror of Vergalid Rk. III | 2340 | 3640 14963 | Lesson of Contrition | 1873 | 3746 14964 | Lesson of Contrition Rk. II | 2135 | 4270 14965 | Lesson of Contrition Rk. III | 2275 | 4550 15160 | Terror of the Soulbleeder | 2408 | 3740 15161 | Terror of the Soulbleeder Rk. II | 2745 | 4270 15162 | Terror of the Soulbleeder Rk. III | 2925 | 4550 19077 | Lesson of Compunction | 2284 | 4568 19078 | Lesson of Compunction Rk. II | 2605 | 5210 19079 | Lesson of Compunction Rk. III | 2776 | 5552 19140 | Crush of the Crying Seas | 2937 | 5874 19141 | Crush of the Crying Seas Rk. II | 3349 | 6698 19142 | Crush of the Crying Seas Rk. III | 3569 | 7138 19143 | Crush of Compunction | 2284 | 4568 19144 | Crush of Compunction Rk. II | 2605 | 5210 19145 | Crush of Compunction Rk. III | 2776 | 5552 19232 | Devastating Blades Strike | 1469 | 2938 19233 | Devastating Blades Strike Rk. II | 1675 | 3350 19234 | Devastating Blades Strike Rk. III | 1785 | 3570 19235 | Enraging Shot | 1469 | 2938 19236 | Enraging Shot Rk. II | 1675 | 3350 19237 | Enraging Shot Rk. III | 1785 | 3570 19313 | Terror of Jelvalak | 3291 | 5110 19314 | Terror of Jelvalak Rk. II | 3538 | 5500 19315 | Terror of Jelvalak Rk. III | 3803 | 5910 21682 | Disruptive Persecution I | 1000 | 2000 23536 | Disruptive Persecution II | 1000 | 2000 25303 | Crush of Marr | 3583 | 7166 25304 | Crush of Marr Rk. II | 4086 | 8172 25305 | Crush of Marr Rk. III | 4354 | 8708 25315 | Lesson of Repentance | 3038 | 6076 25316 | Lesson of Repentance Rk. II | 3465 | 6930 25317 | Lesson of Repentance Rk. III | 3692 | 7384 25366 | Crush of Repentance | 2786 | 5572 25367 | Crush of Repentance Rk. II | 3178 | 6356 25368 | Crush of Repentance Rk. III | 3387 | 6774 25483 | Devastating Edges Strike | 1792 | 3584 25484 | Devastating Edges Strike II | 2044 | 4088 25485 | Devastating Edges Strike III | 2178 | 4356 25528 | Infuriating Shot | 1792 | 3584 25529 | Infuriating Shot Rk. II | 2044 | 4088 25530 | Infuriating Shot Rk. III | 2178 | 4356 25580 | Terror of Rerekalen | 4278 | 6650 25581 | Terror of Rerekalen Rk. II | 4599 | 7150 25582 | Terror of Rerekalen Rk. III | 4944 | 7680 28048 | Barbed Tongue Strike | 2252 | 4504 28049 | Barbed Tongue Strike II | 2365 | 4730 28050 | Barbed Tongue Strike III | 2483 | 4966 28353 | Crush of Oseka | 5007 | 10014 28354 | Crush of Oseka Rk. II | 5257 | 10514 28355 | Crush of Oseka Rk. III | 5520 | 11040 28365 | Lesson of Remorse | 4246 | 8492 28366 | Lesson of Remorse Rk. II | 4458 | 8916 28367 | Lesson of Remorse Rk. III | 4681 | 9362 28437 | Crush of Tides | 3895 | 7790 28438 | Crush of Tides Rk. II | 4090 | 8180 28439 | Crush of Tides Rk. III | 4295 | 8590 28560 | Devastating Slashes Strike | 2396 | 4792 28561 | Devastating Slashes Strike II | 2516 | 5032 28562 | Devastating Slashes Strike III | 2642 | 5284 28605 | Provoking Shot | 2396 | 4792 28606 | Provoking Shot Rk. II | 2516 | 5032 28607 | Provoking Shot Rk. III | 2642 | 5284 28657 | Terror of Desalin | 5315 | 8260 28658 | Terror of Desalin Rk. II | 5714 | 8880 28659 | Terror of Desalin Rk. III | 6143 | 9550 30800 | Disruptive Persecution III | 1000 | 2000 32377 | Virulent Talon Strike I | 3400 | 6800 33925 | Virulent Talon Strike II | 4500 | 9000 34356 | Crush of the Iceclad | 6624 | 13248 34357 | Crush of the Iceclad Rk. II | 6955 | 13910 34358 | Crush of the Iceclad Rk. III | 7303 | 14606 34368 | Lesson of Sorrow | 5243 | 10486 34369 | Lesson of Sorrow Rk. II | 5505 | 11010 34370 | Lesson of Sorrow Rk. III | 5780 | 11560 34443 | Crush of Tarew | 5154 | 10308 34444 | Crush of Tarew Rk. II | 5412 | 10824 34445 | Crush of Tarew Rk. III | 5683 | 11366 34585 | Devastating Impact Strike | 3170 | 6340 34586 | Devastating Impact Strike II | 3329 | 6658 34587 | Devastating Impact Strike III | 3495 | 6990 34624 | Angering Shot | 3170 | 6340 34625 | Angering Shot Rk. II | 3329 | 6658 34626 | Angering Shot Rk. III | 3495 | 6990 34687 | Terror of Poira | 6604 | 10260 34688 | Terror of Poira Rk. II | 6934 | 10780 34689 | Terror of Poira Rk. III | 7281 | 11310 34805 | Repugnant Bargain | 7949 | 15898 34806 | Repugnant Bargain Rk. II | 8346 | 16692 34807 | Repugnant Bargain Rk. III | 8763 | 17526 37183 | Disruptive Persecution IV | 1000 | 2000 38265 | Disruptive Persecution V | 1250 | 2500 40012 | Phantom Aggressor | 7599 | 15198 40013 | Phantom Aggressor Rk. II | 7979 | 15958 40014 | Phantom Aggressor Rk. III | 8378 | 16756 41236 | Disruptive Persecution VI | 1500 | 3000 41757 | Virulent Talon Strike III | 5600 | 11200 43328 | Crush of the Darkened Sea | 7924 | 15848 43329 | Crush of the Darkened Sea Rk. II | 8320 | 16640 43330 | Crush of the Darkened Sea Rk. III | 8736 | 17472 43340 | Lesson of Grief | 6271 | 12542 43341 | Lesson of Grief Rk. II | 6585 | 13170 43342 | Lesson of Grief Rk. III | 6914 | 13828 43403 | Crush of Povar | 6166 | 12332 43404 | Crush of Povar Rk. II | 6474 | 12948 43405 | Crush of Povar Rk. III | 6798 | 13596 43522 | Devastating Swords Strike | 3792 | 7584 43523 | Devastating Swords Strike II | 3982 | 7964 43524 | Devastating Swords Strike III | 4181 | 8362 43607 | Terror of Narus | 7827 | 12160 43608 | Terror of Narus Rk. II | 8218 | 12770 43609 | Terror of Narus Rk. III | 8629 | 13410 43685 | Distasteful Bargain | 9289 | 18578 43686 | Distasteful Bargain Rk. II | 9753 | 19506 43687 | Distasteful Bargain Rk. III | 10241 | 20482 48603 | Disruptive Persecution VII | 1500 | 3000 49079 | Dichotomic Fang | 6000 | 12000 49080 | Dichotomic Bite 1 | 8781 | 17562 49081 | Dichotomic Bite 2 | 9220 | 18440 49082 | Dichotomic Bite 3 | 9681 | 19362 49083 | Dichotomic Bite 4 | 10165 | 20330 49084 | Dichotomic Bite 5 | 10673 | 21346 49085 | Dichotomic Bite 6 | 11207 | 22414
I have to say I'm impressed... this is probably the most direct communication we've had in... months on Live. (The thread as a whole that is)
Roshen, How about making it so you can add another 6 people to your fellowship? The current limit is 12 and as a lot have posted with alts/etc it fills up fast. Sell a 6 slot upgrade for fellowships in the DB store, just like you have slot upgrades for mercs, characters, etc. I'll let you figure out how much you want to charge, I just want credit for the idea =P
That's pretty awful. These are the DoTs that proc from our Pyromancy AA line and they generate a massive amount of aggro already due to the high base amount (16,800, which is x4 higher than Necro's Pyre for reference) so if they suddenly start generating even more it just gets worse. DoT aggro isn't reduced by SCS which is why Elidroth added the Hate Override in the first place. He thought, (and was wrong, as usual) that hate overrides worked on every tick of a DoT. They don't of course, and aside from forgetting to increase it with the last upgrade (it's still set at -11400 and not -16800), it only negates the first tick of aggro (well not even that much) and so generates a massive amount of aggro. Fixing it so it reduces less aggro just exacerbates the problem. I'm not saying not to fix the problem with hate overrides, just trying to bring to light a longstanding problem with this ability that this fix will make even worse.
Roshen, thanks for the clarification on which spells are going to be tweaked aggro wise. Very much appreciated!!
To those complaining about knights getting a defensive boost and weapon stances: Last stand shields 45% of damage. Knights disc does 36% if i remember. Even with this small 9% difference, knights "incredible ability to proc heals on themselves" (or so you make it seem so incredible.) Knights literally die twice as fast or faster on any raid named. if you think it's unfair to give them weapon stances and a 5% increase to base mitigation (weapon stance which, wont even stack with their disc, aka they'll still drop almost twice as fast on raid named) you're mentally . Stances will at least allow them to live on raid trash instead of being kiter fodder or speed bumps. Warriors have more ac, hitpoints, and mitigation in such excess, it makes knight tanks look infantile in comparison. if anything knights aren't being given enough. On the debate of 2h weapon stance, I think if warriors are still going to tank better in 95% of situations, knights might as well get to do more dps in comparison to warriors, but i dont really care about this argument one way or the other. I'm a raid cleric and i see how fast each of these classes dies and have played a warrior a number of years and found out most of the mitigation factors in the game to have a decent idea of whats going on, but you can take or leave my opinion.
I'm not making any statements about the power levels. My issue is we've already been there, done that and learned nothing. Proficiencies are bad and need to be scrapped. Copying them to other classes and compounding the problem is the wrong way. Not to mention they were implemented in response to problems they caused with Warriors by trying to correct the Knight vs Warrior itemization problems they are now tinkering with again. Hold on tight because we're just getting started. The unlocking level of the Knight mitigation boost is also a head-scratcher. Warriors won't be getting proficiencies on TLP until 4 expansions after UF. And consider the now-deleted Phalanx line was made in response to poor Knight/Warrior balance. They really have no idea what they are doing.
Ideas seem interesting, and I'm all for passive things, I'm afraid even with the buffs "auto" going there's going to be a gap where when one buff is coming off and one coming on. I hope there isn't but I don't want to take that one full round cause of my lag or server lag. The less things I have to watch the better, only thing I'd add to your ideas is letting nttb or pain doesn't hurt to be extended again, but factor it in 96+
If you don't want to chance the buff "coming on or dropping off" without testing at the moment all you would need to do is not swap weapons, until your either not the "tank" or not wanting to dps. If it works as it sounds you could and should be able to in most situations bandolier between weapons / weapon shield combo's and be much more effective in each situation. That they believe it's fixed stacking issues is also a positive.
