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DirectX 11 API Port is on Test Server!

Discussion in 'News and Announcements' started by Angeliana, Sep 12, 2023.

  1. Angeliana Senior Community Manager

    The DirectX 11 API Port is now on the Test Server. DirectX 11 is included with the required Windows OS versions (see below) so in most cases you will not need to install more software.DirectX 11 is not planned to go to the Live servers in the September update.

    Most systems that currently play EverQuest should be able to run DirectX 11. If you have concerns that your system will not run on DirectX 11, please attempt to login to the Test Server during this testing period.Instructions on how to access the Test server can be found HERE.

    There are a few goals with this port. For many people, the immediate benefit will be improved graphics performance and stability from modern drivers. Additionally, this allows our game to continue running in non-emulated graphics modes. Major graphics card manufacturers have already started running games for DirectX 9 in emulated modes (and thus introducing another area for potential graphical lag in the future). Eventually,we'll have some new and improved art that takes advantage of the features of DirectX 11 too.

    New Minimum Requirements
    You will need to ensure your PC meets the new requirements, which are as follows:

    MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    • OS: Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or newer
    • Processor: Intel Core i7-4771 / AMD Athlon X4 840 or similar CPUs
    • Memory: 4 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti / AMD Radeon HD 7970, hardware feature level 11_1 or greater
    • Network: Broadband Internet Connection
    • Hard Drive: 20 GB of free hard drive space
    OPTIMAL RECOMMENDED SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
    • OS: Windows 10 64-bit or newer
    • Processor: Intel Core i5-9600K / AMD Ryzen 5 3600X or better
    • Memory: 8 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 / AMD Radeon RX 5700 or better, hardware feature level 11_1 or greater
    • Network: Broadband Internet Connection
    • Hard Drive: 20 GB of free hard drive space
    To verify your Operating System and Service Pack, open your Windows Search on your PC and type in MSINFO. You will see "System Information", press that. Within the "System Summary", you will find what OS Name and Version you have.

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    To verify your DirectX version and your GPU's hardware feature level check DXDIAG. Go to Windows Search on your PC and type in DXDIAG. Click on the Display tab and in the box on the right titled Drivers, you will find your feature level.

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    Alternatively, you can look up any video card to check for compatibility at: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs. The hardware feature level will look like this, the number in the parenthesis is the feature level that this graphics card supports:

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    Troubleshooting

    If your system meets the minimum specifications, you may need to install updates.

    If you're running Windows 7 (without any service packs), you will need to upgrade to Windows 7 SP1:
    UPDATED INFO:
    If you're running Windows 7 (without any service packs) or SP1 without the Platform Update, you will need to upgrade to SP1 AND Platform Update for Windows 7:
    For further Windows 7 update information, please visit:
    If you're running Windows 8, you may need to install the DirectX 11.1 optional updates:
    Reporting Issues

    To report bugs on this port, please post HERE. With each issue, please include as much information as possible. Such as zone, loc's, NPC names, your current graphics settings, screenshots of issues, or anything else that may be helpful for us to try to reproduce the issue internally.

    FAQs

    Q: What will the DirectX 11 change let you do that can't be done now, or is this just keep the UI working with DX11 with bigger monitors?
    A: Some of the DirectX 11 features are tessellation, improvements to occlusion, and access to additional post-processing effects. You can read more about DirectX 11 features here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3d11/direct3d-11-features

    Q: I play on a laptop with just onboard Intel graphics chip. Will this make things worse for me to play?
    A:If your integrated graphics supports DirectX 11 there should be a performance improvement. There should be a lot of coverage for DirectX 11 and that is part of the reason why DirectX 11 was chosen instead of a newer version (wider hardware support). You can read more about Intel graphics API support here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005524/graphics.html

    Q: Will the DirectX 11 require a stand-alone graphics card?
    A: Depending on the capabilities of your PCs integrated graphics, DirectX 11 may be supported. Intel HD4200 and higher should support DirectX 11.1.

    Q: Will the lag get worse with DirectX 11 on older systems?
    A: Most likely not, though some older graphics cards, typically graphics cards older than 10 years, may not support DirectX 11 which would be the main drawback of the upgrade (most have had updates that added DX11 support). Graphics cards that support both DirectX 9 and DirectX 11 should see a performance improvement.

    Q: What are the long-term plans for DirectX 11?
    A: The initial reason to move off DirectX 9 was to help future proof our game which may not be supported natively by modern graphics cards in the next few years. Intel stopped supporting DirectX 9 natively in 2022. DirectX 11 allows us to use newer features (see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3d11/direct3d-11-features) such as tessellation and multithreading. DirectX 11 was chosen vs a newer version to support older hardware and overall be a less disruptive change.
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  3. Nananea New Member

    I have a ton of respect for this push to keep the game more modern, improve player experience, and keep min specs as wide as possible. Thank you for the continued work on this amazing game.
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  4. Barton The Mischievous

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  5. Lodestar The Undefeated

    Glad to see the developers taking this seriously, with a noteworthy post, asking for testing from the community. This is necessary.

    What is the current expected timeline for when DX11 will be released to Live, given the 2023 roadmap having slated DX11 coming out September/October?
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  6. Warpeace Augur


    Just like every other patch the next Wednesday after it hits test. Unless it actually breaks the test server....
  7. MyShadower All-natural Intelligence

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  8. Stormblossom Elder

    I understand the importance of future-proofing the game, although I suspect any attempt to add newer graphical options to the existing skeleton of the game will only amount to putting lipstick on a pig.

    This update will fundamentally end the ability of the laptop I have managed to cripple along to be able to box on TLP for years. I can't afford to buy a newer secondary system purely for EQ.

    I hope this type of situation at least feeds into the discussion of expanding the availability of relaxed truebox on TLP, as I doubt I am the only player whose second machine is a toaster that will be invalidated as an option by this change.
  9. Moege Augur

    Is there some way to check in-game that DirectX 11 is actually used ?
  10. Fanra https://everquest.fanra.info

    A number of people are reporting in the Test Server bug thread (Test Update 9/12/2023 - New Bugs Only) that they are unable to run DirectX 11 EQ. Until the issues are fixed, do not assume that being unable to login to the Test Server and run EQ means you will not be able to do so when DirectX 11 EQ finally goes live.
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  11. Numiko Augur

    Why is graphics card minimum set so high? many cards less then a 780 TI will run DX11 fine. You even mention later on that intel integrated graphics lap tops should see some improvement, but they for the most part fall far below the power of a 780 TI.

    One of my boxes has a GT760 in it, you are saying it wont be able to run Everquest anymore?
  12. Pikollo Augur

    How will this effect people that bought toasters to box on? I know live servers won't have a concern as they can window on their primary PCs. But TLP's without relaxed truebox may be affected?
  13. Razzy Lorekeeper

    My other PC has a GTX680 and it's loading today's test server fine.
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  14. Pikollo Augur

    Dedicated card would probably run better then a cheap onboard that (atm) plays EQ fine.

    Not saying it will or will not be an issue. I don't personally know. But its something to look at. Especially since they are evaluating relaxed truebox on Mangler and Thornblade.
  15. Fenthen Well, that's that...

    What are we expecting DX11 to bring to EverQuest? Hopefully we see something more than the 64-bit upgrade which so far has been a broken UI?
  16. Bernel Augur

    I have a Radeon HD 7400 card (it's an old card in an old business PC). For the most part things look good. Occasional weirdness with texture of black horizontal blocks like this:

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    The textures load properly if I get closer.

    Zone textures are loading differently. For instance, Blightfire Moors looks like a desert:

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    Same place on Live:

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    Not really expecting a fix for my card since it's so old. Just putting this here for reference.
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  17. Lodestar The Undefeated

    This is the first of what I'm sure will be many examples with challenges of a DX11 port. This is why I've been incessantly posting on Bug/Veteran's forums about Daybreak ensuring this is extensively vetted. This should not be pushed to Live until all critical issues are rectified. Ideally, Daybreak should at least utilize one month of beta raiding for next expansion in October to stress test the port and increase the DX11 sample size of testers.
  18. phattoni Augur

    thanks for this update, eq is actually using a large portion of my 3060 ti now.

    and it seems to run much smoother for me now.

    before it would barely touch video card and do all the processing on the processor it seemed.

    what kind of video memory usage are you aiming for with this update btw??
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  19. Herf Augur

    There's rumor that "Celeron"s will no longer be supported but that can't be true right? I just bought a mini PC new last year. This is the spec:
    Mini PC Windows 11 Pro, 8GB DDR4 128GB SSD Intel Celeron J4125 Mini Desktop Computer, Support 2.5-inch SSD, 2.4G+5.0G WiFi, 4K HDMI x2, Gigabit Ethernet

    Surely this will continue to work being less than a year old?
  20. phattoni Augur

    well just tested my pen computers that i box with, they no longer work, so doesnt look like i will be spending as much on TLPs due to this update :)