/copylayout really means /restorelayout?

Yinla · Jul 18, 2024

Waring_McMarrin said: ↑

“In this case the changes that you are seeing on your screen have not yet been saved to the ui settings file which means that in this case you are just restoring the setting from the file.”

That raises the question.

Why did it not load in my saved char ui settings?

Waring_McMarrin · Jul 18, 2024

Yinla said: ↑

“That raises the question.

Why did it not load in my saved char ui settings?”

Couldn't tell you, I know that when I logged in to a messed up UI I just used that command on my existing file and it was fixed.

Iven · Jul 18, 2024

Fanra said: ↑

“I'm not "dying on this hill". I just think that it is a poorly worded, non intuitive, non standard UI element.

Obviously, after years on not using it and not understanding it, I think I understand it now. You can go on about how my argument is poorly made, using dictionary.com is a bad choice, etc.

None of that matters. Whether I make a poor argument or not, it is a bad design that violates standard usage of how the idea of loading a saved UI layout works. When you load a UI (not the layout but a custom UI) it uses the term "Load", because that is what you do. You don't "Copy" when you "Load" your UI, you load it. The same is true of layouts.

But, as I said, I'm not going to "die on this hill". If people want to ignore my opinion on this, fine. I never expected to "win" this battle, as people don't like change, even to fix broken things.

As for my wiki and other contributions to the EQ community, none of that has anything to do with my thread here. Bringing up, "Well, you have done a lot of good but you are wrong here", is really damning with faint praise. That is a reverse ad hominem fallacy. It doesn't matter who I am. All that matters is my point. Either it is correct or not.

I'm done here with this thread. Goodbye.”

/loadlayout would be a so much better command instead of /copylayout. And why not adding /savelayout for creating backups that do not get overwritten by the client ?!

The forums are an oasis of ad hominems which are an act of unmature behaviour. It is like pointing with the finger onto someone and saying: "You are stupid !".

Best of ad hominems:
"You are cheap !", "You don't want to pay !", "You only wrote that suggestion for your own benefit !", "You are a slow and bad player !", bla bla.

Xianzu_Monk_Tunare · Jul 21, 2024

Fanra said: ↑

“There's copy and there is paste. Copy does not normally mean paste. What EQ does with /copylayout is paste, not copy.

If you get a video game which autosaves and you want to go back to a previous game you don't pick the previous saved game file and choose "Copy". You pick "Load".

EQ is not copying an existing file to your current UI build, it is overwriting (pasting) an existing file over your current build.

EQ autosaves UI layouts. When you want to use an autosaved UI layout, you want to "Load" it or "Paste it" over the current UI. Copy means make a copy, as in I want a backup copy somewhere. I also thought it meant copy your current UI layout.

I have no idea how you could possibly think that copy means paste. In Windows "Copy" and "Paste" (as well as every single video game I've ever played) are not the same thing.

Copy = make a copy (as in autosaving something)
Paste = put the copy somewhere, overwriting if necessary (as in overwriting your current UI with another (saved) copy)
Load = What this is doing, it is loading a saved copy.

dictionary.com:

"Copy" - Computers. an exact duplicate of a file, program, etc.:

"Paste" - Computers. to insert (copied text, images, etc.) into a file.

"Load" - Computers. to make (an aspect of a program or website) visible, audible, playable, or otherwise executable:

”

You are copying the layout that you choose, you are not pasting the layout because that implies that you have already copied it.

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