Cleric Intervention spell line still botched

Discussion in 'Priests' started by mmats, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. mmats Augur

    This is from 2/21 patch notes, but it seems they forgot to add the actual fix to the patch. The entire intervention spell line is still using physical (not chromatic) resist. Any clerics out there annoyed with having their intervention strikes being regularly resisted?

    [43163/4648] Mystical Intervention Strike
    Classes: CLR/103
    Skill: Melee
    Mana: 10
    Target: Targets Target
    Range: 300'
    Resist: Physical -10
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    1: Decrease Current HP by 8877 (If Not Undead Or Summoned)
    2: Decrease Current HP by 11984 (If Undead)
    3: Decrease Current HP by 10653 (If Summoned)

    [55187/4748] Merciful Intervention Strike
    Classes: CLR/108
    Skill: Melee
    Mana: 10
    Target: Targets Target
    Range: 300'
    Resist: Physical -10
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    1: Decrease Current HP by 10766 (If Not Undead Or Summoned)
    2: Decrease Current HP by 14533 (If Undead)
    3: Decrease Current HP by 12918 (If Summoned)
  2. Gundolin Augur

    Yes, it's annoying.
  3. Pano Augur

    The damage is so negligible that it doesn't really matter. It's a great tool to pull though.
  4. mmats Augur

    It can be decent dps when paired with the judgement line...
    1. cast Unyielding Judgement (recourses twinheal)
    2. cast Merciful Intervention (now twincasts the heal and dd)
    3. cast Glorious Judgement (recourses twinheal)
    4. cast Mystical Intervention (now twincasts the heal and dd)
  5. Pano Augur

    Decent is a bit of a stretch, if both dd crits, Merciful does 150k (27k w/o) and Mystical 130k (24k without). Even with our contravention line, cleric sustained dps is laughingly low if the mob isn't undead.
  6. mmats Augur

    Its a big help in groups (or molo obviously), granted it doesnt get resisted because devs forgot to fix it :)
  7. Gundolin Augur



    My DPS is still negligible when I run Judgement>Int>Int>Judgement>Contra>Contra>Judge>Int>Cont. When I compare my DPS to the DPS classes anyway.

    However, its still annoying how many of them are resisted.
  8. Brohg Augur

    "negligible" is 100s of DPS. The Judge/intracontra thing is 10000s. That it doesn't match classes that aren't also healing for majillions doesn't make make it nothing. If one of the "real" dps classes chose to dismiss a method that added 40k or whatever dps to their usual play, they'd be called negligent and aggressively incompetent.
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  9. Pano Augur

    Don't need to compare to dps, just compare yourself to your fellow priests classes and it's still isn't that much. Druids can still hit 150k+ dps and shaman, I don't know.

    While it's nice for cleric to be able to sustain 50-55k dps, it's only useful in group content if you are in a low dps group. Having mobs last 8-10 seconds really hinders your ability to "dps". The only good thing about it, is that we are better than mercs.
  10. Jetslam Augur

    Short duration fights shouldn't affect nuking class dps since there's no ramp up as there is with dots. If a fight is short enough to just cast a few spells, you'd probably start with twincast, nuke, and then a third nuke instead of an extra twincast that may not fire for the next cast.

    Unless you're chaining pulls in which case it won't matter as the twincast charge can be used for the next mob's first nuke.
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  11. Clarisa Augur

    These spells definitely get resisted a lot:

    [Sun Mar 18 20:08:04 2018] Clarisaa hit Rile Sathir for 9622 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 20:08:04 2018] You deliver a critical blast! (9622)
    [Sun Mar 18 20:08:04 2018] Rile Sathir is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    [Sun Mar 18 20:13:38 2018] Clarisaa hit Venril Sathir for 12631 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 20:13:38 2018] You deliver a critical blast! (12631)
    [Sun Mar 18 20:13:38 2018] Venril Sathir is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:07 2018] Clarisaa hit Hoshkar for 13581 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:07 2018] You deliver a critical blast! (13581)
    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:07 2018] Hoshkar is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:18 2018] Clarisaa hit Hoshkar for 1416 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:18 2018] Hoshkar is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:18 2018] Clarisaa hit Hoshkar for 18562 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:18 2018] You deliver a critical blast! (18562)
    [Sun Mar 18 20:38:18 2018] Hoshkar is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    [Sun Mar 18 21:00:01 2018] Clarisaa hit Xygoz for 33035 points of non-melee damage.
    [Sun Mar 18 21:00:01 2018] You deliver a critical blast! (33035)
    [Sun Mar 18 21:00:01 2018] Xygoz is struck by the wrath of divine intervention.

    Now, granted these are raid mobs that may be more resistant to spells in general, but yeah... some of these landed crit amounts are pretty awful (and Venril and Rile are undead). I'm not saying clerics should be able to do a ton of damage with these spells, but at least fix the resists so they can do the damage they were intended to do most of the time.
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  12. Metanis Bad Company

    Clerics need to go on strike for a few weeks. Either they'd fix our crap or we would find out that we can all re-roll as necros because the druids and shamans picked up our slack.
  13. Brohg Augur

    :confused:
  14. Cloudia Augur

    wait....... WHAT! if you all rerolled as necroes then Druids would have to go on strike for better wages. We would want TWO fish heads in our weekly ricebowl.
    To many debuff slots taken up by nercoe dots already, and you want to try and take food out of a druids mouth. I would call my shop steward, but he is gone to a zombie raising festival right now.
  15. Ninelder Augur

    Your mages are probably lazy, using AA malo instead of the cast one that bumps magic dps. I am also assuming that the mobs were tashed, if they weren't you need to fire your enchanter. With both Tash and Malo on, nothing gets resisted.
  16. mmats Augur

    Intervention spell line isnt affected by tash or malo, and is part of the reason for this thread.
  17. Ninelder Augur

    Actually its hitting the mobs lowest resist, its chromatic, that usually means you don't need a resist adjustment on the mob, but in this case any would do.

    Merciful Intervention Strike III - Holy fire strikes your target, causing 11869 chromatic damage to most targets, 16023 damage to undead targets, or 14242 damage to summoned targets. like other proc nukes it uses a physical attack, with a negative 10 resist adjustment, you should only have trouble landing this on maybe named and raid bosses who aren't tashed or malod.
  18. Ninelder Augur

    Edit: No edit button. The physical attack means that it cannot be reflected. This is a good thing.
  19. Brohg Augur

    Other than the numbers, no part of that is true. It is both highly resistable, since it isn't chromatic, and reflectable, since physical attacks totally can be reflected (talk to monks about Grannus)
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  20. mmats Augur

    The spell data is pasted in the OP. This is what it says -

    Resist: Physical -10
    Reflectable: Yes

    Bottom line is that it blows and devs know it. Thats why they tried to fix it, but evidently failed.