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Classes epic obsolete!!!!

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by blood & gufts, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. blood & gufts Augur

    Why is certain classes stilll able to use their epi, whle others are outdated.

    Bard, shaman and, zerker can stil use, but druid and wizard, and such is outdated.

    There should be make so all classes can use. Or NO classes can use above 100.

    Since druid is vs shaman and shaman still get 100% effect, then so should druid
    Veteran_BetaTester likes this.
  2. Tuco Augur

    I'd be in favor of removing the max level limit of Season's Fury and removing Season's Wrath.
    Koveras likes this.
  3. Magelub New Member

    Welcome back!
  4. Celephane Augur

    What?
  5. FYAD Augur

    Zerk epic has been obsolete for a long time.
    Fenthen likes this.
  6. Act of Valor The Newest Member


    Got to like the attitude here. "If I can't have it, then no one can." Stop calling for nerfs please, its obnoxious and against the forum rules.
    cadres, Fenthen, Kyzvs and 3 others like this.
  7. FYAD Augur

    Technically, the bard and shaman epics benefit everyone else in the group more than the person doing the click
  8. fransisco Augur

    because different devs made different epic 2s back in the day, and some put ZERO thought into how they worked. Thus why some clicks are incredibly OP and others are meh. Some have hard level caps and others are totally open ended.
    As well, the current dev philosophy is to avoid changing old stuff at all costs, thus why certain classes have been brokenly op for well over a decade now.
    Fenthen likes this.
  9. Kaelwyse Lorekeeper


    Indeed, I sort of agree with the frustration that some epics remain value and others do not, but Druid in particular isn't the greatest example due to Season's Wrath.
  10. Nennius Curmudgeon

    Every once in a great while I look at my Pally 2.0 and I am glad I put the effort to get it, but I haven't used it in a very long time. I don't raid and it has become a historical relic for me. :(
    minimind likes this.
  11. Flatchy Court Jester

    Hey buck up camper, you can now make a persona and have a worthwhile epic now too!
    Lisard, Tyranthraxus and Sissruukk like this.
  12. Allayna Augur

    Druid 2.0 epic click:

    [6269] Season's Fury
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Lowest -300
    Can Reflect: No
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Duration: 30s+ (5 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    Max Hits: 20 Matching Spells
    1: Increase Spell Damage Taken by 1% to 50% (v296, Before Crit)
    2: Limit Max Level: 75 (lose 5% per level)
    3: Limit Effect: Current HP
    4: Limit Max Duration: 0s
    5: Limit Type: Detrimental
    6: Limit Target: Exclude Caster AE
    7: Limit Target: Exclude Caster PB
    8: Limit Target: Exclude Target AE
    9: Limit Target: Exclude Old Giants
    10: Limit Target: Exclude Old Dragons
    11: Limit Type: Exclude Combat Skills
    12: Limit Min Level: 2
    Text: You are caught in the fury of the seasons.

    Druid AA:

    [65995/41150] Season's Wrath X
    Classes: DRU/254
    Skill: Melee
    Target: Single
    Range: 300'
    Resist: Magic, No Sanctification
    Can Reflect: No
    Stacking: Season's Wrath & Elemental Arrow 18
    Focusable: No
    Casting: 1s
    Duration: 60s (10 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    1: Increase Spell Damage Taken by 18% to 25% (v296, Before Crit)
    2: Limit Type: Detrimental
    3: Limit Resist: Fire
    4: Limit Resist: Cold
    Text: You feel weakened to the effects of the elements.

    They've already addressed your complaint, years ago, with regard to druids. Honestly the level 100 heroics should come epic 2.0'd, money maker for EQ and I don't have to repeat epics just because I want to make another bard/shaman/sk, etc....with valuable epics.
  13. Febb Augur


    Welcome returning player. You might try the Newbie forums, hopefully people can help you get some information on the current game over there.
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  14. The real Sandaormo Augur

    Warrior epic lasted about a week before there were better weapons.
    Tyranthraxus and minimind like this.
  15. Tyranthraxus Grognard

    Wurmy+sword of the shissar > lightsabers in kunark. War epic is never more than best in slot offhander in omens.

    Don't construe this as agreement with the OP, Epics are what they are. No Nerfs!
  16. Namde Augur

    So do we want Epic 3.0's or just 2 missions next expac? Hmmmm


  17. Flatchy Court Jester

    EPIC 3.0!!! :eek:
  18. Allayna Augur

    We got just 2 missions this expansion and no class weapon quests….so.
  19. fransisco Augur

    Theres an awful lot of revisionist history going on. Warrior epics were great in era because they had an agro proc. Back then literally every warrior used lightsabers - because they were optimal. Its just that whats "optimal" has changed.
    People on tlp are only thinking about dps since warriors now have endurance based agro abilities. However back then they didn't exist. Slightly better dps weapon is meaningless if your tank cannot hold agro, hence why EVERY warrior had lightsabers.
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  20. Cadira Augur

    Totally off topic but I want to express my hatred with the over usage of NPCs having the epic 2.0 graphic.

    Like, no, those are ours. We did that not some random NPC. It's like you can find an epic 2.0 in the bottom of an cracker jack box now days.