Cast-Time of Paladin Remonstrate Heal Too Long

Discussion in 'Tanks' started by Zandal, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. Zandal Lorekeeper

    Cast-Time Far too Long on this Spell to be of any Use.
  2. Ofearl Slayer of all things Stupid

    Thats easy... dont use it. Splash, wave, sincere light.
  3. Litefighter Lorekeeper

    Lol most unhelpful comment of the year goes to ..... Ofearl!

    Remonstrate and splash have the same cast time, well longer for splash because you have to find a place to cast it. Wave is 3 second cast, sincere is .5 so it is faster but it is a smaller heal.

    Remonstrate has the same cast time as the previous spells in that line all the way back to Denouncement from HoT. Not sure what your intent or hope is. Could it be faster? Yea, would be sweet if it was, did more damage and the heal was bigger. But Paladin's don't get any love in EQ.
  4. Laronk Augur

    I don't know, being a paladin feels pretty good to me.
  5. Repthor Augur

    his right poor paladins not like they got an entire expantion that cater to them as their play ground. poor paladins =(
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  6. yepmetoo Abazzagorath

    Would it be nice if it was faster for when tanking? Yeah. Is it too slow to cast? No.
  7. Ofearl Slayer of all things Stupid

    You think we have peaked, its not even March!
  8. Nennius Curmudgeon

    Yes, but the year is young. Hope still exists. And to prove that, here is a recent Dilbert cartoon:

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  9. Dracolindus Journeyman

    If you want a hill to die on, make it an ability similar to reavers bargain.
  10. Ofearl Slayer of all things Stupid

    OK, this had me thinking again. Didn't take long..

    Why would you want to use this for TANKING?!

    [58820/10835] Remonstrate

    Classes: PAL/112
    Skill: Evocation
    Mana: 2371
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic -15
    Reflectable: Yes
    Trigger Spell DS: Yes
    Can Break Root: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 1s, Recast: 5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Hate Mod: -4871
    1: Decrease Current HP by 6189 (If Not Undead Or Summoned)
    2: Decrease Current HP by 9284 (If Undead)
    3: Decrease Current HP by 7891 (If Summoned)
    Text: You stagger under a divine reprimand.
    Denounces your target, dealing #1 damage and healing your target's target for *$4#1 hit points. This spell will deal #2 damage to undead or #3 damage to summoned creatures. This spell will generate %M less hatred than a comparable attack would.

    [58823/10835] Remonstrate Heal

    Classes: PAL/112
    Skill: Alteration
    Mana: 10
    Target: Targets Target
    Range: 300'
    Resist: Beneficial, Blockable: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0s
    Hate Mod: -4408
    1: Increase Current HP by 9056
    Text: You are brightened by faint praise.
    Heals your target's target for up to @1 hit points. This spell will generate %M less hatred than a comparable heal would.

    Looking at in game description of rk1, its 4871 less hate using this. I guess less hate if good for tanking... With my focus effects it is .8 seconds cast time...

    Now I use Sincere Light, I'll use rk1 for compare...
    [58826/10807] Sincere Light

    Classes: PAL/112
    Skill: Alteration
    Mana: 1572
    Target: Single Ally AutoCorrect
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Beneficial, Blockable: Yes
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 0.5s, Recast: 5.5s, Timer: 9, Rest: 1.5s
    1: Increase Current HP by 8423
    Text: A dazzling light covers your body.
    Bathes your allied target or your enemy's target in light, healing #1 hit points.

    So, Less mana, faster casting, Damn near same # of HP's healed before any focus/crit... and doesn't lower your hatred in the mob. Look at the other aspects, Remonstrate can be reflected, meaning what you just cast can be worthless, also basically same recast time....
  11. sojero One hit wonder

    or why not use Valiant line, its a better heal + big single target agro + chance of ae agro, for less mana

    Also remonstrate line also is AE deagro.
  12. Allayna Augur

    1 out of 26. Perspective is everything. You get every expansion as your playground.
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  13. Wulfhere Augur

    It's a good spell but it's not a better heal. Valiant Healing is one of the several paladin heals that do not fully focus because the casting level is 255.
  14. Wulfhere Augur

    Except that it shares a timer with Protective.
    Which spell are you finding better since the targeting change?
  15. sojero One hit wonder

    might not be, haven't paid attention, been enjoying the dps from pally on this xpac! I find that spell is enough to not worry about the downsides of the others, still a better all around spell.
  16. Repthor Augur

    clearly your confuseing warriors with Sks go figure