Can we make sure that MotM = Agent of Change? (eg Drusella Sathir)

Thank you for increasing her spawn rate to twice as fast on the TLP servers. And thank you for taking the time to create an instanced version of HS with her in it. I know a lot of people would like to complain about it, but I want to make sure there is at least one voice out there saying "thank you"!

I'm glad Drusella got her instance but since there isn't currently any plans to change the others mobs with MotM and no instance can we get a general idea going forward of how to determine which mobs will get MotM and instance vs just MotM buff and no instance?

There are 2 categories of MotM buffs on these mobs.

Category 1:
Raid bosses. On phinny all of these MotM mobs should get instances. DBG has decided that Drusella was in this catigory just like some of the other easy mobs like Phinny.

Category 2:
Mobs that they don't want spawning in multiple picks of zones. Some epic turnin mobs for particular classes that would have been faceroll easy epics if it weren't for this decision.

All category 1 should get a raid instance. All category 2 don't.

Has anyone tried staying in like a Fear raid instance for over 24-36 hours to see if BG actually spawns in there?

Same with Seb? They theoretically should have the similar coding as regular zones.

Not sure how quick the UDB spawns after track dies, but no, no one has stayed 24+ hours in fear instance because it doesn't last that long.

Also, I don't believe category 2 is correct because Prathun said that they didn't want to take the time to go over each epic and balance it. So that would make it a direct contradiction about re-balancing epic spawns.

If they want to extend the life of these instances to 24-48 hours then that's great and Im sure I could get people to help keep it alive that long, but I doubt they would want ALL instances to stay live that long because of how many dead instances it would keep up and tie up resources for things tht would never be used.

I'm guessing you haven't done any of the raids yet, bro?

They max at 6 hrs.

Because reducing spawn timers normally means the players already killing said mob kill it more often, rather "benefiting all player." The solution that benefits all players is the phinny solution, you had your chance and still do to move off your dead and broken server, but you choose to wallow in your misery on LJ

Lol what sort of baddies take 6 hours to beat any of the kunark or classic raids?

I hope to all that is good and holy in this world that you didn't find this out the hard way...

None - we sometimes don't bother booting everyone out of the DZ after the final raid of the night though. Plus I explicitly sat around in a Fear DZ waiting to see if Shissar would show before it closed once as well.

It's pretty shocking you couldn't put two and two together on that, and immediately jumped to the ludicrous.

...with a protector add and no raid tier tank.... yea, totally a normal circumstance. I'm sure YOU deal with a protector + 2 jugg add unexpected on UDB all the time without issue. /rolleyes.

I saw AoS wipe to a MotM Trak they started at 40% with, with over 30 people - clearly that was a normal circumstance and AoS can't handle anything, since they can't win a ~30 sec fight. Right? Obviously it wouldn't be jumping to conclusions to assume AoS wipes regularly on MotM Trak based on your impeccable logic.

(This is sarcasm in case it's not obvious, obviously the circumstance was to blame - shockingly adds and other circumstances change the difficulty to encounters...)

But seriously, good job on using a jump to conclusion to jump to another conclusion. I bet you're a fan of chemtrails and other conspiracy theories with that train of logic.

I mean I have never been in an instance for 6 hours. Done all the raids. Have people been kicked from instances still raiding?
If so, why?! Nothing should be taking 6 hours.

EDIT

We all jumped to that conclusion because what you commented on. You said

As if the 6 hour max was a common issue you guys have or something.
Kind of funny like you were calling me a noob because I have never even come close to finding out that the instances only last 6 hours max lol.

Vaclav, it's ok to have someone insult you and/or your guild and not respond to it. It really is. I'm certain you've seen how awkward/annoying it can be when other guilds do it and blow up over the teensiest perceived little slight. You know how longwinded I often am, right? Imagine if I responded in defense of EVERY critique, overt or inadvertent or otherwise, anything, that went against AOS? How much would people get sick of me? Now imagine you aren't in IVAS and you are constantly seeing this Vaclav guy respond to EVERYTHING said about that guild, and how you'd be likely to see him/them as a result.

Back on Fippy I used to basically respond to everything said regarding TL (and really just everything) and racked up a pretty trollish reputation. I remember one time I had an entire guild tag team harassing me (I apparently disabled COTH on them) and was extremely upset and wrote novels on those forums. It was a mistake then and it's a mistake for you now. I've been there - believe me, it's not worth it.

All I can see in this post...

More like:

Shrug, in every INSTANCED raiding guild I've ever been in - many people are too lazy to drop the DZ. It's not a weird phenomena that I've ever seen. "Raids are over" called while the DZ is still ticking. Really no reason to force kick people or drop the DZ if you're not doing another immediately after.

It's also been a universal figure for almost every DZ based raid - Ikkinz? 6 hrs. Time? 6 hrs. Uqua? 6 hrs.

Just like XP based ones tend to max at 2 hrs.

It's a personality quirk of mine and it applies to EVERYTHING - I don't like seeing incorrect information provided. If you go back far enough you'll find cases where I defend people that I don't like because something is incorrect.

I don't give a crap what people think of us or whatever at the end of the day - I care about the record being straight on things. If you think we're the most awesome guild or worst guild ever, that's fine I don't care, but understand the circumstances behind X/Y/Z.

When there's nothing to correct, I don't post. Unless its expressing opinion on a design topics or giving stupid little advice posts.

The only time we wiped to Maestro in Classic was when another miniraid and us had some cross pulls and we got him as as part of a train with multiple spite golems + a cleric or two I think? And after he'd wiped the other raid as well, mind you.

You seem really confused that some easy stuff becomes hard when adds (or in that case more properly labeled, trains) get involved.

I don't care what you think of the incidents or whatever, but at least portray them accurately. Yes, that event happened - but again, trains were involved. I'd wager anyone running a miniraid in Classic would've had trouble with that circumstance.

can you guys keep on the thread without derailing it with another pissing contest please? I'm sure roshen is tired of breaking out the fire dept to hose down threads constantly...

Yea, my bad Qelyn - I actually had a better means of satisfying my need to correct errors, but not derail things that I started trying recently. Going back to that method.

Sorry.

(However side note - I didn't see the thing Perdition was mentioning from this morning - I'm a late sleeper, if anyone has data regarding it, please PM me - can only theorycraft based on that statement)

Any chance we might get this fix in era? Not much time left...