Boxing Is The Plague Of EQ

So play with other people...I do and I box...

Your ignorant mindset that it is an absolute either or is a YOU problem.

When you literally said, and I quote:

If you weren't talking about me when you said people like you (me)" then perhaps you have some communication issues.

I've played enough MMO's, I know your type. Super snobby, elitist, and if people don't play the way you want them to, they are

The funny thing is, when you say "people like you" in a conversation with me, you are talking to someone who was around EQ when it launched. You are talking to someone who has played numerous MMO's to high level, and someone who is a trial lead in other MMO's. I know all about playing to efficiency, and something that I've noticed is that, players like you, with the holier than thou and high and mighty attitude, are usually the worst players in the group. I can't even count how many loud mouth braggarts I've grouped with who talk very loudly about "not wanting to waste my playtime" who are the ones who spend the most time in the group dead. Once they leave the group, the group finally proceeds forward far more efficiently than we were with the way too arrogant anchor holding us down. Players like you don't know how to function without a guide or a meta telling them how to play, and have a fit if you aren't getting the maximum amount of rewards for the least amount of effort. If EQ wasn't 25 years old, you'd be sponging off of YouTube guides telling you how to play, and yelling down anyone who had a build slightly off what you were told is the best.

So while you talk about people like me, it's people like you who make MMO's an absolute dread and an absolute chore to play. So again, I repeat myself, you're doing everyone a service by multiboxing and sticking to yourself. Please, remove yourself from the social setting of the MMO and quit ruining the game for everyone else. We're all better off that way.

The person boxing is another person they are just playing more than a single character

buddy if I could post a picture of a mirror....



maybe if your monitor is glossy.

I love reading comedy. Please continue.

If you want to see where I rank, I'll happily post parses. You may realize it's better to just know not when to post.

I group plenty. Just not with randoms. I have zero desire to do that. If you want to and do, good for you. I do not have the patience nor time alloted to waste on people spending double the time to do the same thing I am.

I'll continue to box when I have to and just like on live and Aradune, I'll donate millions of plat worth of TS items, collects, gear, key/prog items, task adds for free exp/prog, and other stuff all because I decided to box. I guess that's super toxic and a plague to EQ as well, huh?

Eh I 3-4 box. I will glady drop 2 boxes for friends/guildies/pugs I know. I will be on Teek I will be pugging. It doesnt take long to see who is afk, not doing their jobs (snare, mez, charm etc). But there are some pugs who are insta-invites and are happy to be in the group and highly welcomed.

Boxing allows for more non boxers to get grps. There are boxers who suck, there are puggers who suck. Lesson is, no sucky sucky

People who have more time to play than I do have an unfair advantage and ruin the immersion for me.

- See what I did there?

How is this 16 pages lol. Without boxing eq doesn't exist. plain and simple. there is no conversation to even remotely be had on the topic. Either accept it, or the game shuts down.

in a perfect world people play one toon, group and raid together, but that's pollyanna at this point

Boxing only seems financially beneficial when you ignore all the subscriptions lost as a result of it. EQ still exists despite boxing, not because of it.

If they’re quitting over boxing, they already lost interest and are using it as an excuse.

Boxing brings an unfairness and a loss of humanity that discourages people from hanging around.

People still hang out, guild chat, channels, etc. What they don't want to do is get involved with a gaggle of random people who are more interested in chatting about the ball game, Netflix movie, the latest Harry Potter book or whatever.

I recall getting rather exasperated by people I knew years ago telling me to slow down pulls because they were relaxing. Breaking a camp and keeping it clear and killed was a lot more relaxing for me as a Bard but my guild mates at the time were very lazy and inattentive. Then I started running a parser and I had no difficulty seeing that some weren't even engaging on most pulls.

Discord is for hanging around

No it doesn't.

If you quit over boxing, you're lying to yourself. You were simply looking for an excuse to reroll and blaming it on boxing is the easy scapegoat.

Fairness is an important factor in the success of a game, and community is particularly important to MMOs. Boxing is detrimental in both those regards. And rerolling doesn't make boxing go away.

There's absolutely nothing fair about slackers and incompetent players leeching XP and loot in groups. The least fair thing imaginable is the early game when zones are full of dithering goobers interfering with gameplay

EQ has not lost subscriptions because of boxing.

Boxing was here in 1999 and is still here today...

People quit for many reasons....

other players boxing is just not one of the reasons.

Lol @ all the box lovers pretending there wouldn't still be a super popular TLP launch every year if boxes disappeared entirely

The only EQ that would be in trouble if they nixxed boxing entirely is live and nobody cares about that anyways

EQ was built literally on the premise of being unfairly advantageous to those who invested more time. Stop being obtuse with these ridiculous conclusions.

If the game was fair, everyone would be limited to x amount of time to play a week, no solo classes would exist (or all would be able to), everyone would do equal dps, tank equally, heal equally. Last I checked literally none of those are true.

It really sounds like you need a safe space. Go make your own personal server and call it the Rubber room so you can avoid all these heinous things.

To be fair, live would also be fine without boxes it would just require some server merging. Not the end of the world. It's a 25 year old game. A couple less servers wouldn't be such a disaster.