On the Aradune server we are on TSS raiding Beltron the Shade King. We haven't ever seen him cast Avatar Snare. After the patch he started casting it. Looks to be casting it every 40 seconds if that matters. [Thu Aug 18 23:05:00 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare. [Thu Aug 18 23:05:40 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare. [Thu Aug 18 23:06:20 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare. [Thu Aug 18 23:07:00 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare. [Thu Aug 18 23:07:40 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare.
We (also on Aradune) have also seen him casting Avatar Snare, we are not kiting him, he just started casting it after the patch. The best part is it seems to be eating his proc casts so he casts about half as many procs as he normally would. There is something definitely broken on this fight post patch, our kill times were way way longer afterwards with 0 change in how we were doing the encounter. Also our Beltron fight with the same number of people was nearly twice as long after the patch then before the patch. Something definitely broke behind the scenes post patch. prior to the patch Beltron would cast his Touch of Shadows every 20 seconds. Post patch he casts it 4 times in the same second every 20 seconds, then casts avatar snare.every 40 seconds. [Wed Aug 10 23:41:17 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:41:37 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:41:57 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:42:17 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:42:37 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:42:57 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:43:17 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:43:37 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 10 23:43:57 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:03:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:03:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:03:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:03:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:13 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:13 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:13 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:13 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:13 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:33 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:33 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:33 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:33 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Touch of Shadows. [Wed Aug 17 23:04:53 2022] Beltron the Shade King begins casting Avatar Snare.
Definitely not trying to kite - we went from this fight being reasonably doable to clerics running through 2 to 3 full mana bars. We went from several people getting the proc debuff at a time to 1 or 2 people getting the debuff over and over and over. The time to kill easily doubled if not tripled with no change in our strategy at all and honestly there isn't anything cheesy about this fight.
Steps to reproduce: 1. Engage Beltron the Shade King at his spawn point, after killing his trigger golems. 2. Add at least 6 characters to his hatelist(crossed swords/aggro meter to confirm) and keep all within 100 range of Beltron. The cast range of Touch of Shadows is 120, this is to ensure any potential Touches are able to land on a player character. 3. Have EVERY character turn all attacks OFF, the tank can DUCK or Face away to prevent any ripostes. This ensures that nothing will interrupt Beltron's spell casts, aside from himself. 4. Observe the casting behavior. Every 20 seconds he will attempt to cast Touch of Shadows on a character. Half of those times(every 40 seconds), he will also cast Avatar Snare at the same time as he attempts to cast Touch. Every time he casts Avatar Snare, Touch will be interrupted and not land on a character. This is what reduces the number of players with the proc active at any given time and what drastically increases the overall fight duration. Again, this change appeared after the patch on 8-17-22. Suggested Fixes: 1. Remove Avatar Snare from Beltron the Shade King. He is now leashed/tethered to his room, so there is no useful reason for him to attempt to snare the tank/highest person on aggro. 2. If for some reason that is absolutely unacceptable, then split the Avatar Snare cast timer to always be separate from when he's attempting to cast Touch of Shadows on players. Touch of Shadows is what drives the event forward, it creates the only way to do real damage to Beltron the Shade King.
The snare is annoying but ultimately not a huge deal. Atleast revert whatever change was made to how Beltron picks targets for Touch of Shadows.
the the time stamps in the 2nd post are confusing. it looks like he is casting ToS 4 times more now post patch? Was he casting it 4 times on the same person on those 4 casts that happen at the same second? It also doesnt look like from those logs Snare impacts ToS - i assume the casts at 4:13 and 4:53 for ToS were interupted? I also agree there seemed to be much less characters with ToS as the fight progressed. I do not think Snare started right away for us, but a few minutes into the fight last night we started seeing it.
I looked at ours as well. Doing the same thing: 4 casts of ToS all at the same second (20 seconds in) - but it only completes / targets and affects one individual. then at the next cast (so at 40 seconds in) - 3 casts of ToS and one cast of Snare, all on the same second of time - only the Snare is actually cast. So the duplicative messages (assuming the 1st three) might be a bug or something that is just no occurring and only the final affect is what is being cast. But it does affect ToS from every 20 seoncds - that no longer happens.
