(bard) how do i help my raid friends

OK OK.. so 110 raiding bard.
Normal run is
aria
insult
suffer
haste
melody
insult
xx optional
alliance if we get x3 bards or more

Of couse FE EQ epic etc.. 50 50 mix of second and third spire// love me some shouts
kk that my stuff.

What I don't understand is the bstx2 and rangers common to see x7 of them.. are not parsing well at all. I watch 1 ranger run thru mana like a at the docks.. and 2 others simply not drop sub 70%. what am I missing here.. I want to help them but I don't know the class so I ask for help.

Now I get it MA got duties.. but most of the time we see groups like this..
ranger ranger shaman bst bard maybe a zerk or rogue or monk
x3

how is it that bards are matching or beating the rangers.. the run list we often see is casters..
wiz mage mage chanter zerk then a hot mess of bst, bards rangers etc

I just want to help my ranger buddies out some; any suggests will help OP is non ranger so dumb it down for me please

Tell them to visit these forums, there's guides for every class, tips, tricks, etc.

Time on target is something that helps people parse better (gotta hit the mob, etc)

Paying attention and actually casting is a huge part of ranger/bst/all caster's DPS.

If they are asking for help, refer them to a guide. If you feel like they don't care, then there's nothing you can do to actually make them do better. Some people are just bad at the game and there's not much you can do to help them because they won't listen.

You might find this useful. I maintain this list for one of the guilds I'm in. I'm certainly not saying all of these are perfect, but hopefully it's a good place to start:

Bard:

• Class Channel: serverwide.bards:bards
• Raiding Bard - Empires of Kunark (I copied this from Primal Brood's Forums to my Google Drive)
• Sirenea's Twitch Channel

Beastlord:

• Class Channel: serverwide.beastlords:beastlords
• Raiding Beastlord - Empires of Kunark (I copied this from Primal Brood's Forums to my Google Drive)
• Freelance Beastlord Guide
• Toxicsoul's Twitch Channel
• Duhbeast's Twitch Channel

Berserker:

• Class Channel: serverwide.berserker:berserker
• Class Forums (you need to request access): http://eqzerker.boards.net/
• Primal Brood EoK Guide
• Freelance EoK Guide

Cleric:

• Class Channel: serverwide.cleric:cleric
• Class Forums: https://eqclerics.org/forum/index.php
• RoS Cleric Guide
• Clarisa's posts on the EQ Forums - lots of good info here

Druid:

• Class Channel: serverwide.druidsgrove: password
• Primal Brood's EoK Druid Guide

Enchanter

• Class Channel: serverwide.enchanter:enchanter
• Gotcharm's RoS Enchanter Post
• Primal Brood's EoK Enchanter Guide
• Sindaiann's Enchanter DPS Post
• Kizant's Enchanter DPS Tool

Magician:

• Class Channel: serverwide.magicians:fluffy
• Class Forums: https://www.eqmagetower.com/forums/index.php
• Sancus's RoS Raiding Mage Guide
• Kizant's Mage DPS Tool
• Ryino's Twitch Channel

Monk:

• Class Channel: serverwide.monkly:business
• Freelance Monk Guide
• Thrillo's Monk Burn Post

Necromancer:

• Class Channel: serverwide.necrotalk:necrotalk
• Class Forums: http://www.necrotalk.com/
• Freelance RoS Necro Guide

Paladin:

• Class Channel: serverwide.paladins: paladins
• Freelance EoK Paladin Guide
• Primal Brood's EoK Paladin Guide

Ranger:

• Class Channel: serverwide.outrider: outrider
• Class Forums: http://www.eqoutrider.net/eqforums/index.php?sid=a3338fa88d4d4ed41c4bed68e206b9f1
• Findictive's RoS Ranger Guide
• Orienn's EoK Ranger Guide
• Primal Brood's EoK Ranger Guide
• Findictive's Twitch Channel

Rogue:

• Class Channel: serverwide.rogue : rogue
• Class Forums: https://thesafehouse.org/forums/index.php
• Freelance's RoS Rogue Guide

Shadowknight:

• Class Channel: serverwide.sk : sk
• Class Forums: http://eqshadowknight.net/
• Drogbaa's RoS SK Guide
• Wuddane's EoK? SK Guide

Shaman:

• Class Channel: serverwide.crucible : crucible
• Class Forums: http://www.shamanscrucible.com/forum/
• Freelance's Shaman RoS Guide
• Primal Brood's EoK Shaman Guide
• Mehdisin's EoK? Shaman Guide

Warrior:

• Class Channel: serverwide.thesteelwarrior : thesteelwarrior
• Primal Brood's EoK Warrior Guide
• Zaknaffein's Warrior Hotkeys
• Zaknaffein's Twitch Channel

Wizard

• Class Channel: serverwide.eqwizards:eqwizards
• Drogbaa's RoS Wizard Guide
• Kizant's EoK Wizard Post (Freelance)
• Kizant's EoK Wizard Guide (Primal Brood)
• Kizant's Wizard DPS Tool

tx sancus tons of info

Bards alliance is what like 6 sec refresh? If you can nail that down-op lol

You not necessarily the one to blame. Try to get one of the hardhitters into your group and see if keeps up or drops like a stone.
If keeps up then you not to blame. If drops down then you might be to blame, does he dies more than normal then that might explain it.

At the end, do not be afraid of some feedback.

You might have been placed in d or e group, the groups that under perform.

I like to focus on sharing info and improvement. This not placing blame on x player.. I focus on improvement, each player, each group and overall raid event. We are only attacking mobs and not players here.

When we have 3 bards we generally have Alliance on lockdown. IE OT we have bard01 on surreals, bard02 on sprite, and bard03 on big RED. Dirge is rot mostly for big red but we do use on adds if fall behind and RL requests a peak burn on adds.. we bards view the event as burn on adds mostly.. as it hard to keep the window open for any damage on red if slack 1% on adds.

Sancus:

Bard link does not work (404 Page not found) Can you assist please?

Thank you!

Edit: Hrmm. Google Drive is weird. This link is working for me, although the other one should've worked as well. Try this:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GAI0bKByyvjMmLRjCklea2_4BPTa_HM-LtCl3MzOaDo/edit?usp=sharing

The Bard and Beastlord guides were updated since those versions.

Bard: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m2hDtDxAdt7qxSLByIi3JEuZ97kOW_JQQ91u9Rplb4E

Beastlord: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x0OGr10b3SwJD0HnPZ4wb91gmIKMpRWW31LL844UcKk

Neither have been updated beyond the date listed at the top, but they're at least more current. The Beastlord one isn't quite as comprehensive as the Bard one, it's more so of a collection of that made sense to me at the time.

Not related to OP, but Mallakhi typed that up, not me. I just usually sit here and chew on crayons.