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Are people really okay with Tower Gear?

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Anduven, Jul 18, 2024.

  1. Yinla Ye Ol' Dragon

    I still want my raid helm and boots. very happy with my azure robe.
  2. SnapVine Augur

    I could envision an implementation of tower gear that wouldn't have been so bad. If the trials were properly tuned and had to be completed by the person who will wear the gear and had to be completed at the level that matches the gear you want, that could have been interesting. or if they just removed the tower quests but added the tower drops as a random loot pool chance on kunark raid bosses

    the current implementation seems like complete cheese. you use level 2s to spam trivial group missions and get bis droppable gear? or you just buy it cheap in EC because its everywhere and everyone has it. yeah, that's a "fun new itemization path" I guess. if you wanted an server where you spawn in bis gear, that experience was always available to you.
  3. ISmellLikeInnySwamp Augur

    I was feeling pretty annoyed when I dinged 56, and realized that I wouldn't be able to solo the tower while level 2's were wrecking it. Forget about the stats. I shouldn't be punished for leveling up and playing the game. I had incorrectly assumed that the raid accession went classic raids, kunark raids, VP raids, and then tower raids. I believed that I would need to join a guild to 50+ man the tower. It completely soured me on the gear.
    I wasn't going to play through Teek for very long anyway, but that is beside the point.
  4. Zinkeh Augur

    As amazing as this stuff is, I would rather have had focus effects back.
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  5. Draconum Elder

    I think it’s wildly out of era, but as someone who typically only does minor raiding or group content I actually like it.

    I’m sure the krono farmers and hardcore people hate having items that even the lowest of casuals can get for some of their slots, but let’s be honest they are going to always have something to get upset about.
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  6. Zansobar Augur

    It completely affects anyone that raids since there is little point to raiding with the tower gear being BiS and maxing all your stats such that stat gear or any item in a tower slot is worthless.
  7. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    As long as you don't need an item with a focus effect or haste in that slot that will provide you with more benefits then the raw stats from the tower gear. Not to mention there are still more slots that you can't get from the tower then slots that you can.
  8. Draconum Elder

    For those slots yeah it trivializes it for sure.

    Guess people will just have to focus on the other physical slots, epic weapons and other quests requiring raids.

    There are other reasons where having a raid force is necessary, and this being a free trade server you can toss some of these current raid drops down to alts or lower level guildies to help them get up to that point of wearing tower items.

    Its going to be hard to convince me that the people speaking out the loudest about this are people whose back pockets are being affected by lower selling opportunities.
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  9. ISmellLikeInnySwamp Augur

    For the record, I'm impartial about the tower gear. I just didn't like how the missions scaled.

    I think the unknown is throwing people off too. There are rumors that a haste belt is coming next. Players will stop trying to raid for belts because a better belt is coming. What is after the belt? I don't know, but if I was still playing on the server, I would only be raiding for visible slots.

    When you have a player who only has one or two characters, they are suddenly looking at a lot of blank time.
    Level up to 60 takes a bit of time.
    They buy tower gear which fills out most slots. You would normally fill out these slots through lot's of grouping and raiding.
    Start and finish their epic.
    Start and finish their kunark shield quest, skullcap, cudgel, or kunark archaeologist quests.
    Complete their keying for VP and raid it.

    The tower gear removes a lot of steps and travelling around the game. To be fair to the Tower Gear, Mischief/Teek rules have made it easy to criticize. I would be interested to see how Tormax players are handling it because they probably quite enjoy having it on a server where most players won't ever be BIS in era.
  10. Zansobar Augur

    No one in their right mind would have wanted the tower gear on a new TLP server, however here we are because of DPG's inaction. Nothing is going to change now that Pandora's box is open. Will just have to wait until next year or maybe when the private server scene finally gets around to making a Mischief clone server with strict no-boxing rules (like the main ones do now anyway).
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  11. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    There was a post stating that the tower would be on the new TLP servers before they launched which let everyone know it was intended and expected that the tower would be there. Also the tower will be leaving the server in the January 2025 patch which will force everyone to get their gear from normal sources.
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  12. fransisco Augur

    try taking tower gear away and see how popular it is? Everyone wants the tower gear.
  13. psybob Journeyman

    Tower Gear , BETTER than ANY drop (period) until Pop and then some. WHY Raid? if your not gonna raid , why be in a guild? Teek has the highest Unguilded population of the Last Few TLPs at this timeline. Will say Boxers like Tower gear it helps them be even more antisocial.
  14. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Tower gear with a few hundred hp/mana isn't going to be better then a focus that increases damage/healing by 25%, decreased mana cost by 10%, increases the duration of buffs/debuffs, and improve your character in other ways. Just because an one item has more hp/mana and other stats doesn't mean that it is a better item overall.
  15. psybob Journeyman

    i said BETTER , and a majority will agree, and have done so in this thread
  16. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Again, there is plenty of raid/group gear that will be better because the focus effects makes the player more powerful then having a bit more hp and mana.
  17. Naxo New Member

    I feel some decent type 7 augs would have been sufficient without making armor obsolete.
    Or possibly re-enabling focus effects to increase gear alternatives in the earlier expansions.
  18. ISmellLikeInnySwamp Augur

    When you look at the Wizard class, it only needs to replace tower gear with (+) damage, (+) range (unless mob is a belly caster), and maybe (-) spell casting time (depending on aggro) for its slots.

    I don't know why some posters can't admit that Tower Gear changes the game quite a bit pre-luclin and even beyond it. Whether it changes the game for the better or worse is of course personal opinion.
  19. I_Love_My_Bandwidth Mercslayer

    I love how people get upset about Tower gear on a server with Random Loot/Free Trade rules. It's pure comedy. :D
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  20. PotatoPowa Elder


    Great idea so while we're at it lets modify noob starting robes so every stat is plus a million with flowing thought 1000 & health 1000, that would be even funner.