Any classes still not happy on Live at 125?

Cleric would be a benefit to me in every way as I run a merc for that slot...I know it doesn't really help much, but +1 for small victories!?

It's pretty telling that a general post basically asking "are you happy with your class?" very quickly became a discussion about how to make clerics less infinitely boring to play.

I think it shows just how passionate we are about our class and how much we want SOMETHING done to help us contribute to the game, outside of raids. Something more than a dev saying "well, I brought it up to the dev team, but don't get your hopes up."

What? Maybe i'm misunderstanding you but it sounds like you are boxing and running a healer merc, where you *could* be running a cleric. But, you are not. Which is emphasizing my point.

If, instead you mean youd love to have a human cleric replace the merc in your group (as opposed to boxing one yourself) because human-run clerics are better than mercs in most ways, then i believe you are not considering all the angles of game play, like most boxers do. A "real" cleric may not want or need to do the content you are doing, may want to roll on augs or shinies or tribute/vendor loot. May intterupt your pace because i gotta eat or answer the door or take a dump. May not like your pace or pull style or your level of social interatcion- too much or too little talking. Most actual clerics these days put up with whatever and set aside their own wants and needs, because if they don't box themselves, there's little other choice. The function of the character itself, even at optimal times, has become boring or frustrating. Oh i gotta heal you once or twice a fight? What do i do for the other minute? nuke? swing my hammer? summon a pet? i mean i do that, but watching how little it matters just reminds me what i'm really doing here : not much.

But none of this is exclusive to Clerics. Same can be said for the other priests as well.

My point was, replacing my merc with a PC Cleric is not a negative net like you claim. It'll always be a positive regardless of what I'm doing. So me taking on a player Cleric will always be a benefit to me in my situations.

I box several and the cleric merc outperforms a real boxed cleric by a huge margin. Since they heal quickly and automatically, i can focus on getting pets on targets, clicking things to gain control, or just go full ham on DPS. It doesn't matter that their heals are weak. They are predictable and buy time. If i tab over to a real cleric, it's just a mess. Tanking, dps, and control take huge hits.

I will always use a healer mercs over any pc. Most players over play them, setting stances, hot keys, etc and then say they aren't any good.

Times I have died with player healer in group? Too many to count
Times I have died with merc healer in group? 2 - forgot to turn it off passive.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Healer merc (do they cast cures?), but they're not smart about their heals, they do not add DPS when healing is not required, and they can bug.

I just dislike healing in EQ, so I avoid it. But I'm always happy to drop my merc in place for a player.

Here is where i think you are just completely off. Both Shaman and Druid can add significantly to the DPS of a group/solo/box encounter. Without doing anything special beyond memming a few spells. The cleric does not have this option. Our absolutely 100% best efforts to damage a mob come nowhere near the other priests' minimal efforts. This is the crux of the inequality.

Let's focus on what you said though:

Now that the part I think you're hyper fixating on (and it has merit) is the:

And I agree with you. But there's a lot of people who run a Cleric Merc in their set ups for whatever reasons. In those scenarios, I will happily take a Cleric as a Cleric will contribute and thus be a net gain, over a healer merc in all those scenarios.

Bottom line about clerics...If you're using a cleric merc and a cleric wants a spot in the group, you'd remove the cleric merc to let the cleric do the healing, but if you get a shaman, druid or even a paladin into the group (all capable of healing just fine), their presence in the group is justified (they offer other things than just healing), even while keeping the cleric merc in the group as healer, whilst the clerics in comparison just isn't.

I will say, at this point last year there were several classes that were unhappy at 120. A year later, it appears that only one class is unhappy.

So... progress! (?)

As a ranger I handle the cures.

My cleric does start fighting back when mobs gather on her (and stays alive until I can get back to her). But your right they do not run out to join the fight.

Apparently she has a very high confidence level and will keep fighting until she dies and never runs away. I think cause she started with a ranger so she understands what needs to be done to keep us alive.

I have yet to catch her watching net flix and letting the group die!

Mages were nerfed to help with lag. Lag is so bad even these forums are barely useable.

Mages were nerfed to help with lag. Lag is so bad even these forums are barely useable.

Mages were nerfed to help with lag. Lag is so bad even these forums are barely useable.

Giving some attention to druids and their mana issues, any maybe some sort of group heal-over-time would be a great boost for that excellent class.

Reworking Coalitions so that they do worthwhile damage for all classes, ie scaling with current spells but doing significantly more damage than them, or allowing them to crit for more, would be of use of 15 minutes to program for next year's expansion.

Would asking for meditation skill for bards be too much?

Yes please!

Best they can do is OOC regen. Take it and be happy

Give clerics a variation of enchanter charm, and make both work in every group zone.

Easiest fix in the game. Next.

And bards should have a res!