Ambiguous wording on TLP rules

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Xanadas, Apr 7, 2022.

  1. Xanadas Augur

    Is Vaniki truebox "like mangler"? The wording could be interpreted several ways.
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  2. Gormgeous Elder

    Seconding the request for clarification of truebox.

    Is either server truebox? It's arguably a huge portion of the ruleset and was left out of the info entirely.

    If it isn't decided yet, please take my vote for making both not truebox.
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  3. Kahna Augur

    Truebox is the default status. Non-truebox would have been significant enough to mention.
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  4. Gormgeous Elder

    If that were true, they'd have replied to the multitude of people asking for clarification. It seems more like they haven't settled on it yet.
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  5. Zansobar Augur

    I don't see anything ambiguous at all. Mangler ruleset is truebox. They stated it will use the Mangler ruleset.
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  6. Kahna Augur

    They hardly jump to when the community snaps it's fingers. For all you know the community guy had a dental appointment and hasn't had a chance to review the feedback yet.
  7. Trox2010 Augur

    Yelinak, a more traditional progression server similar to the rules for Mangler..." < from Producer Letter

    "Mangler is a “True Box Server” like Coirnav." < from Mangler Progression Server FAQ page
  8. Gormgeous Elder

    I'd agree except for he was replying to questions asked around that one just fine on the discord. This includes other devs.

    Not asking them to jump to. Just kindly requesting a flat ruling on Truebox for the 2 new servers.
  9. Lawyer Augur

    Perhaps they still haven't decided.
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  10. Elabone Augur

    They are not going to release a server that isn't truebox and not announce it. Therefore no announcement means both are truebox. Getting an official answer doesn't change that. You holding onto the hope that 1 won't be truebox isn't healthy. Let it go.
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  11. ProForumWarrior New Member

    Truebox on any server is bad. It only creates a bigger gap between those that can afford 6 machines and those that cant. I specially disagree with Truebox on a speed run server
  12. Gormgeous Elder

    The five or six of you keep responding with no and I keep saying I'd prefer they aren't and please would daybreak respond.

    Not demanding and not unhealthy. Just noticed they have been completely silent on it. If it isn't decided please register my vote as against true box.

    You five are very pro truebox it seems and if they haven't decided and are waiting to hear a sentiment, your passive acceptance would result in truebox.
  13. rangerous Elder

    You might want to check how many of these posts daybreak responds to lol.

    Daybreak has a couple weeks to clarify anything as the announcement is about 7 weeks out from server launch which is early compared to past years.

    I'm sure db will make another more complete post but I doubt anyone there is going to respond to every forum thread.

    The Yeli one is going to be truebox though while vaniki could go either way.
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  14. Stagentti Augur

    They're probably watching the forums and Discord to see what people want and will decide based upon that.

    Wouldn't be the first time.
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  15. Vicious EQ Elder

    It is Truebox
  16. Foaming I Drank Bleach IRL Once

    It shouldn't be truebox, but that has never stopped them in the past.
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  17. Gormgeous Elder

    You guys keep asserting it or both are truebox and then tell me not to hassle myself in asking.

    Really you shouldn't worry about me. It is no hassle at all. Just trying to decide if I'll play on either and that is part of the information I'd use to determine it.

    Neither should be truebox, hopefully.
  18. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Considering there has only been 1 server in recent history without truebox I have a feeling it is safe to say the trend will continue with each new TLP being truebox. Also pretty sure they have stated in the past that the new TLP's will all be true box.
  19. Hekkthebank Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds

    While we're at it, can we get Skuz's opinion?
  20. Xanadas Augur

    Except that's not what they said.

    "Vaniki, a Level Locked Progression server, and Yelinak, a more traditional progression server similar to the rules for Mangler."

    It's ambiguous whether or not "similar to the rules for Mangler" applies to both or just the second server they mentioned.