Alternate Persona

Imagine the sites that sell toons. Now you are allowing folks ot make a Mage/Chanter/Warrior/SK/Shammie all in one for one low price!! Welcome kmart shoppers.

I don't see this point of this unless it's a paid service to change class similar to the gender/ race potions. If it's a paid service that makes them money that's fine with me- pay a fee and roll your 120 enchanter into a 120 necro... fine by me. But if it's like a shroud where you can do it any time you want I think that would just be harmful to the game. If you want a 120 something, start a new char and exp it.

This is a funny take to me, I don't mean any offense just to further clarify. The feature appears to be just leveling "alts / personas" from 1-125 on the same character(name, inventory, etc) and they are heavily monetizing it by selling the slots and the heroic levels etc.

But your post reads, to me at least, like you would hate the system unless they made money off it. If it was a good system and free that wouldn't be harmful to the game, it's just a different way to play and level alts to keep players engaged longer and the game more active. We don't have to worry about it being free though because every feature added has to have a market place item to sell now it seems.

Are you using this are a reason to not do it? Should we never get any feature because it can be RMT'd?

I mean... thats what it is? We start a lvl 1 char and level it up, it just happens to share titles/acheevs lol

For me, this feature would be a godsend.

I have too many alts, and most of them are unflagged so i'm forced to only use a few characters for the main things i'm doing.
And i'm constantly character hopping so people would have to figure out which one i'm on.

Being able to be on the same character but being able to change the flavor and style when i need it, will be amazing for me.

oh today i want a melee group and have fun, well i'll switch over to those classes and get going. No worrying about flagging again or anything.
And i can do what i love, which is leveling them.

And no need to have 14 characters per account with interesting names that i might never play, that would be unlocked for other players to have as character names.

No need to worry about which character to claim that special illusion or contract or other things on. It can now apply to all i play on that account.

Alternate personas might not be for you... but they for sure are for me....

Just thinking of the perks when you have that player who's unanimously hated by the entire server for whatever reason that's always hopping chars to get around the /ignore....this will block all those little alts (assuming they use the AP feature).

+1

I'll just merge my druid and mage

I'm actually more interested if I can have a persona the same class as the main. For reasons....

I REALLY hope that it allows you to move an alt to a persona. I have accounts with like 4 alts and I would absolutely love it I could just put that into one toon. I wouldn't have to run my other guys over to where I want to be, flag them separately. Now I could just choose which character I wanted to play, HUGE quality of life change. I really don't want to have to level another alt as a persona. Why would I have to level another toon, that I already have a level 120 with tons of AA? PLEASE allow us to merge an existing alt with the main one. Charge whatever, just make it possible!!

Umm, they could still just keep their alts lol. How would this block that? You can still have/create multiple characters, they aren't changing it so that you can only have one main with different personas.

Usually their alts are well known too ^_^

But it seems that AP is just going to be the new character select screen going forward

This thread needs to return to reality. There isn't going to be any option to convert an existing alt into a persona. Because there are so many special cases, the development work to make that happen is huge, the resources simply do not exist. We might not even see the base create a persona function before the expansion launch; we might not even see it on Beta for player testing prior to expansion launch. And you people are expecting something that's 100x more dev hours than that??

The principle aim of the persona system is to allow the sharing of flags and keys (which everyone wants), the sharing of TS skill levels (which everyone who does TS wants), the sharing of achievements (which most want, there are a few naysayers to that), and the sharing of personal storage, big bags and the like, without having to constantly swap things around between alts. ATM they're kinda hung up on the storage part. Every persona has to have its own equipped gear profile, like a bandolier, except that for multiple classes there is a whole lot more of it. Some additional storage system is likely needed, and that hasn't gotten past the design stage yet. If you're starting something new from level 1, this all sounds great, but if you already have levelled alts, you would be better off standing pat, since at least they each have their own separate storage.

There aren't going to be any implicit race changes, either. Your race is what you chose when you rolled at character select, and your permitted persona class choices will be based on that. While additional race/class combos continue to be lobbied for, and may eventually happen, it's not part of this project, again there are simply no additional resources to allocate to it.

Swapping a persona will be the same as if you logged back to character select, except you won't. Buffs will not exist across personas. XP will be separate, just like it was a different character. AAs the same. They may create new AAs which can be unlocked across all personas at once, but nothing of that sort has been coded yet. I'm not expecting to see anything like that in this first release.

Since it's American football season, a football analogy: We can't get out team into the endzone if we keep moving the goalposts on them. For our world football fanatic friends: We can't put the ball in the net if we keep removing the net to be restrung.

Talks about reality, immediately starts speculation. Checks out.

Not sure why everyone thinks it is going to be limited to the classes that your race can be. As some races are limited to as few as 5 classes while others can go up to as many as 13 classes that would be pretty limiting for a new feature.

Modern MMO should not encourage grinding.
I suggest Alternate Persona should be allowed to copy the alt (level and class) on the same account. The group experience sharing restriction should refer to the highest level class of the character.
Actually is it possible that the level of Alternate Persona was same as the main. You still need to grind thousands of AA after auto grant.

Someone had mentioned something about the engine and how it handles the 16s (16 races, 16 classes), and going over that limit would mess with something (opening up every class to every race).

But that's also the thing, how many people only have 1 character going into this new feature? Or only play 1 race (and if this is the case, will AP really change that for them)?

It's not like you're having to start new. I'd wager most people have all their character slots for a server filled out on a single account with varying combos. There's ways around it, so it's not exactly all that "restricting"

Personas doesn't have to change anything for people who already have alts on their account that they play. What it is doing is allowing people who want to create alts but not have to go through all the flagging and other things that go along with the process of leveling up a new alt.

Personas are going to let you play another class while keeping most things about your current character. This process means you can share many things such as flags and gear and just worry about the leveling process.

Everything on beta indicates that it will be starting from level 1 unless you buy a heroic upgrade and there has even been data mining that indicates that you can't die on one persona and get a rez on a different.

I mean if you sell accounts you can already do that with just leveling 4 characters on either the same account or 4 different ones. It isn't really changing anything. Assuming that progression XP will be negated you would lose Time/Money by using the feature since each toon past the first would require more work than usual to get to max.

Right...but with what they spend their development time on, and the lack thereof (class balance that got pushed back to next year for example), I don't think they've taken the time to deal with the headache of messing with the game engine/system to allow unlocking all classes for all races is what i'm saying.

It's very reasonable to think that race/class combo's will be restricted to what they are now. It would be easier to unlock all classes from the start on a TLP release, and they refuse to touch that as well.

Again, why do you think that when you have some races that can be 5 classes and others that can be 13? The creation of a persona is likely going to involve race selection as well meaning that you pick a race/class combination that is unlocked on your server.

And I think you are confusing what the coders do (persona) and the developers do (class balance) and it isn't like the entire team is working on this. From what I have seen plenty of people are excited about this.