I mean that would be a nice tip for the public, but she said it in the context of discussing the future of the engine. She knows there is a line in the sand somewhere in the future if they don't do this, she wasn't just telling us that as a public service announcement. Yes, of course, ATM's still use WindowsXP or whatever. Closed systems are one thing, legacy systems work the same way. A game that is trying to continue to exist and bring in more revenue each year has to live with the realities that end users will have whatever their new computer came with for an OS. Some will linger on Windows 10, but eventually there will be a new version that has patchwork support for 32-bit, maybe that will be 11, maybe that will be 12, or whatever they are naming them now. That doesn't seem to be what they intend to do, my read is they want all their games profitable and stable going into the future. Only time will tell. Poorly, but those were different leaders in different times. Nobody is perfect, but their current leadership isn't clueless as to how the game works technically, she's a dev too. If anybody understands how to keep this thing working into the future it's going to be her and the team she surrounded herself with. So you're a glass half empty kind of guy, eh? I get it, Landmark was a disappointment in the end, and EQ has plenty of scars and blemishes to show the pains of the past. All we can do is tell them we want more, and hope they can deliver. I trust the team they have now to understand how to get there, and make their best effort to do so, but as you say, we will see.