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50 heroics on Teek

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by KRYGZ, Jul 5, 2024.

  1. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    How is my guess wrong when it follows the pattern of how they have released all 3 sets of heroic characters? If they followed your pattern they wouldn't have set the level 50 heroic characters to be with PoP.

    Wouldn't it make more sense that they are not using a percentage on when to release heroic characters then making a jump to them being inconstant with the release?


    How exactly is having a level range that isn't set in stone flip flopping? They likely are setting it based on multiple factors that we don't fully understand.


    People keep posting the same reasons over and over in this thread as to why they should let people use level 50 heroics now even though the exact same problems will occur on the next TLP before kunark happens. In the end it won't solve anything.


    Why can't you move on from the problem that is being pointed out? The simple fact remains is that majority of problems that have been pointed out from power leveling will still be around even if they let people use level 50 heroics on teek.


    I can read and I can understand that you will have these exact same problems in later expansions when the level cap is raised and AA are introduced.

    It's typical Waring. Latch onto some random topic like a leach, make your stance, and keep repeating it until people are fed up and move on or curse you out and get suspended and you merrily hop to the next topic and troll it without any consequences in your delusion bubble.[/quote]

    If this is all about me why not take the option of ignoring me and moving on?
  2. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Why not propose a solution that doesn't require people to pay for their levels? No matter how you look at it people are paying to level up which isn't a good thing for the game.
  3. CdeezNotes Augur

    Why can't you propose a solution like a normal person instead of just repeating the same garbage? You think it's ok to just repeat literally the same things over and over and never make any counter argument/solution? Are you simply incapable of having any meaningful discussion or do you just choose to post the same nonsense? And don't tell me it's not your job to do so because it's nonsense. It's not your job to post here at all, but you do so either provide to the conversation or just don't post at all because we know for darn certain this doesn't affect you in the slightest as you've never once played on a TLP.

    Solutions:

    1. Further cap the AEs to 12-18.
    2. Unlock overseer in classic.
    3. Allow overseer to provide AA exp.
    4. Add exp bonuses to earlier progression/keys.
    5. Launch heroic characters earlier.
    6. Unlock hot zones in classic.
    7. Create custom exp quests that rotate zones.
    8. Add collection sets to previous expansions.
    9. Add exp bonuses to earlier achievements (hunter, explorer, conqueror, slayer, etc)
    10. Add ultra rare dropping exp glyphs that drop zonewide (this may cause AE farming issues even more though so maybe they only have a percent chance off named mobs).
    11. Allow "sidekicks" so lower levels can get exp with higher levels.
  4. Gnothappening Augur

    What victim? The people who are too lazy to hit /pick?
  5. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    Unlocking you are suggesting allowing heroic characters up to max level and max AA that won't solve the problem as people will still pay people to power level them to max level. The rest of the ideas do look like they can be used to ease the pain in leveling up and work on solving the issues.
  6. CdeezNotes Augur

    I already answered this. Use the folded thing between your ears.
    I don't even know what you're even trying to say here. Make it make sense.
    You just answered your own question. It isn't set in stone so it's flip flopping. If I say yes, then no, then yes, I'm flip flopping an answer. If they release a heroic 15 levels, 20 levels, then back to 15 levels below max level cap that's...flip flopping. This isn't nuclear physics. It's basic understanding of English. What is flip flopping? The sudden change/reversal of something. They set a precedence of X - 15, changed it unexpectedly to X - 20, then again went back to their original X - 15. Pretty textbook flip flopping.
    You don't know what it will solve. You're guessing.
    I did and have, multiple times. Why can you not move on from the same repetitive drivel?
    There are multiple ways to alleviate the grinding of EQ in later expansions. The problem is nearly self-resolving. This argument doesn't hold any water.
    Because I hope for one day you realizing you're the forum jester at this point it makes you change your ways so you actually become a contributing poster on these forums.
  7. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    You made a guess that they used some sort of percentage to determine what level they are going to set the heroics to based on the first two and decided the third didn't fit the pattern. Instead of saying they are not following the pattern maybe accept that how you think they are calculating it is wrong.


    Just pointing out that they are unlikely to be using a percentage to determine the level to set heroics to.

    Them releasing 3 heroics with two being a 15 level gap and the other being a 20 level gap doesn't mean that they are flip flopping. How frequently that they release level cap increasing expansions has changed over the years. The max level is likely tied to several things which likely includes how long the player has been at a given level and how many expansions have been released in that time.


    Just because you post the same idea that I have been pointing out problems with over and over again doesn't mean I won't point it out again when you include other things.

    The problem is nearly self resolving? I guess you haven't played on live in a while where people complain about the xp grind all the time. I would say that it gets worse over time and there is a much harder grind.

    If this is the case you should really stop complaining about me replying when your goal seems to be to get me to reply.[/quote]
  8. Demetri Augur

    Infinite (or near) aggro is still a thing... I've personally done 60+ mob pulls for DS killing where only the mobs available limited the pull size besides cases where the mobs got stuck on geometry
  9. fransisco Augur

    Lol. Naw, my solution is to get over it. There is competition, and your asking to not have to play the game with anyone else and just be given whatever you want.
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  10. Gnothappening Augur

    Wait, you are DS pulling 60 mobs and the aoe power levelers are the problem?
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  11. Demetri Augur


    When others aren't around? Yea, I will - and I move on when a standard group needs the area...

    Empty zones/areas where it's not impacting anyone? Absolutely, I will when there's some personas to level or similar. But I'm conscious of the other players when I do it and avoid impacting them.

    And I did stating specifically that folks that are PLing in those ways (as it can only be done on lower level content) ARE the ones that can be the worst when toxic.

    Selective reading is adorable though, I'm sure you have fun with your 8chan conspiracy groups that thrive on such.
  12. Xerzist Augur

    Hi Daybreak can I just pay you $100 and get max level and BiS gear and be BiS in my own head?

    You fools don't even play the game lmao
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  13. Zygone Lorekeeper

    Precisely why 80% of the player base wants PLers, bots, and those auto gamers to disappear so that they can enjoy the 1-60 experience in peace.
  14. CdeezNotes Augur

    You realize the post is to reduce PLers so more zones open up for people to enjoy, yes? Or is critical thinking beyond your educational level? Let the people getting PLed have their heroic chars, reduce RMT, open up the popular zones to the regular folks who want to play the game. What a crazy concept, huh?
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  15. CdeezNotes Augur

    Exactly. Your solution is cater to RMT business and telling the real playerbase to get over it. Classy

    For what it's worth I have yet to buy any PL or heroic character. Unlike you and your rigid thinking, I can see the merit with the flaws. I know it takes years of practice to be able to have such a nuanced stance, but with time even you can.

    And besides, the function exists so people can already skip the content. Your entire argument is...a red herring.
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  16. Gnothappening Augur

    Open up more zones? If people are to lazy to /pick, then it doesn't matter how many zones. Heck, if they really wanted "open zones" they would be on Tormax.
  17. CdeezNotes Augur

    PLers can take up multiple picks, you're aware of this yes? The rest of your comment is a false equivalence that I won't bother replying to.

    Also...
    Lol. Here is you complaining about AOE groups now with OOC regen taking up multiple picks. Ah the irony of your hypocrisy is palpable. Delicious.
  18. Xerzist Augur

    So your solution is p2win insta 50. No, that just benefits the power-levelers. What are you on? They still need to go 50 - 60, then 60 to 65 later in xpacs. If anything, it buys them MORE customers. People who will spend the money on 50, then another 10 kronos on max AA, then to 60.
  19. Draconum Elder


    Yeah...

    When I was in my mid twenties and thirties a few days back I went to SolA where there were four picks, three of which had AE PL'ers and the other had just a group of PLing with out of group DS/heals.

    When I was low 50's two days ago I went to The Hole and there were three picks, all three had AOE PL'ing going on. Even with the damage/stuns capping on '30', their workaround is to now bring 6-9 enchanters instead of the 3-4 they ran before.

    Don't think its people "to lazy to /pick" so much as its an epidemic of multiple picks with multiple people mass AOE'ing the entire zone, with some being so bold as to send tells to people saying this is their "pick" and if they do not leave they will not get any mobs.

    Granted, I haven't seen that fella or the guild named after him since I reported him so maybe he did get a small vacation but who knows.
  20. Gnothappening Augur

    Sol a and Sol b lend themselves to AOE because they are connected and also because where people /pick on sol b at least is the entrance. So they set up there and do it. Is that a problem? Sure. However, the hole they aren't /picking as it would dump them at the entrance. Maybe there are multiple people doing aoe or something but they aren't picking in the hole. I went there today and there were four or five picks.