Does anyone have links to guides or advice, for aa set up and spell set ups/load outs for solo/grouping/raiding set ups for 110 paladin. Seems like a lot to the class just trying to get better. Everything im finding seems really outdated.. Thanks in advance!
What exactly will you be doing? Will you be raid tanking? Group tanking, both? Non-raid tanking? Will you be soloing? (real solo, not with bots, ect)? Being more specific will help
I won't claim these sets to be the best for you or anyone else including myself. They're just something to start with and you should change them to suit your own needs.... Base Set for Raids Harmonioius Blessing Mana = 4555 + 40 procs of 3514 Hate & Group Heal = 4722 Preservation of Rodcet Mana = 1118 +15%Hate Generated + 32 heal procs Burst of Morninglight Mana = 2960 Heal 14198 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Burst of Dayspring Mana = 2464 Heal 11707 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Wave of Expiation Mana = 4277 Group Heal 11209 ** Long Cast Wave of Grief Mana = 3561 Group Heal 8376 Splash of Depuration Mana = 2565 AE Heal 2967 + Cure & Hate = 100 Protective Devotion Mana = 2151 HoTT = 6926 + Melee Guard 15% 57734 total Valiant Defense Mana = 1412 Hate = 9176 + HoTT = 9702 Hate = 6462 Brilliant Exoneration Mana = 1734 Damage = 5089/6870/6106 + Healing Twincast Censure Mana = 1976 Damage = 5103/7655/6507 Hate – 3673 & HoTT 7468 Hate – 3673 Crush of the Timorous Deep Mana = 274 Damage = 1026 Hate = 19219 Crush of E’Ci Mana = 1100 Damage = 4072/5498/4887 & Hate = 14956 Aggro / Tanking Harmonioius Blessing Mana = 4555 + 40 procs of 3514 Hate & Group Heal = 4722 Preservation of Rodcet Mana = 1118 +15%Hate Generated + 32 heal procs Burst of Morninglight Mana = 2960 Heal 14198 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Wave of Expiation Mana = 4277 Group Heal 11209 ** Long Cast Wave of Grief Mana = 3561 Group Heal 8376 Sanctimonious Audacity Mana = 724 Hate 5918 + 3558 Hate per tick + -62 Magic Resist Refute for Honor Mana = 196 Hate 7166 + 12899 Hate per tick & Melee Absorb 10% 18080 total Protective Devotion Mana = 2151 HoTT = 6926 + Melee Guard 15% 57734 total Valiant Defense Mana = 1412 Hate = 9176 + HoTT = 9702 Hate = 6462 Brilliant Exoneration Mana = 1734 Damage = 5089/6870/6106 + Healing Twincast Censure Mana = 1976 Damage = 5103/7655/6507 Hate – 3673 & HoTT 7468 Hate – 3673 Crush of the Timorous Deep Mana = 274 Damage = 1026 Hate = 19219 Crush of E’Ci Mana = 1100 Damage = 4072/5498/4887 & Hate = 14956 Note: Can Swap Crush of E’CI for Crush of the Darkened Sea Mana = 228 Damage = 847 Hate = 15848 Healing Dichotomic Force Mana = 8314 Hate = 6000 + Stun 110 + Group Heal 14028 ** Instant Cast & No Twincast Merciful Touch Mana = 1747 Heal 11154 Burst of Morninglight Mana = 2960 Heal 14198 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Burst of Dayspring Mana = 2464 Heal 11707 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Wave of Expiation Mana = 4277 Group Heal 11209 ** Long Cast Wave of Grief Mana = 3561 Group Heal 8376 Splash of Depuration Mana = 2565 AE Heal 2967 + Cure & Hate = 100 Protective Devotion Mana = 2151 HoTT = 6926 + Melee Guard 15% 57734 total Valiant Defense Mana = 1412 Hate = 9176 + HoTT = 9702 Hate = 6462 Brilliant Exoneration Mana = 1734 Damage = 5089/6870/6106 + Healing Twincast Censure Mana = 1976 Damage = 5103/7655/6507 Hate – 3673 & HoTT 7468 Hate – 3673 Crush of the Timorous Deep Mana = 274 Damage = 1026 Hate = 19219 Crush of E’Ci Mana = 1100 Damage = 4072/5498/4887 & Hate = 14956 DPS-1 (Living) Harmonioius Blessing Mana = 4555 + 40 procs of 3514 Hate & Group Heal = 4722 Preservation of Rodcet Mana = 1118 +15%Hate Generated + 32 heal procs Burst of Morninglight Mana = 2960 Heal 14198 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Wave of Expiation Mana = 4277 Group Heal 11209 ** Long Cast Sanctimonious Audacity Mana = 724 Hate 5918 + 3558 Hate per tick + -62 Magic Resist Refute for Honor Mana = 196 Hate 7166 + 12899 Hate per tick & Melee Absorb 10% 18080 total Protective Devotion Mana = 2151 HoTT = 6926 + Melee Guard 15% 57734 total Valiant Defense Mana = 1412 Hate = 9176 + HoTT = 9702 Hate = 6462 Brilliant Exoneration Mana = 1734 Damage = 5089/6870/6106 + Healing Twincast Censure Mana = 1976 Damage = 5103/7655/6507 Hate – 3673 & HoTT 7468 Hate – 3673 Admonish Mana = 1645 Damage = 4208/6312/5365 Hate – 3347 & HoTT 6158 Hate -3029 Crush of E’Ci Mana = 1100 Damage = 4072/5498/4887 & Hate = 14956 Remembrance Mana = 946 Damage = 4143/7112 + 20% Chance + 10% Hit Damage - 431AC DPS-2 (Undead) Harmonioius Blessing Mana = 4555 + 40 procs of 3514 Hate & Group Heal = 4722 Preservation of Rodcet Mana = 1118 +15%Hate Generated + 32 heal procs Burst of Morninglight Mana = 2960 Heal 14198 ** Fast Cast / Long Recast Wave of Expiation Mana = 4277 Group Heal 11209 ** Long Cast Sanctimonious Audacity Mana = 724 Hate 5918 + 3558 Hate per tick + -62 Magic Resist Refute for Honor Mana = 196 Hate 7166 + 12899 Hate per tick & Melee Absorb 10% 18080 total Protective Devotion Mana = 2151 HoTT = 6926 + Melee Guard 15% 57734 total Valiant Defense Mana = 1412 Hate = 9176 + HoTT = 9702 Hate = 6462 Brilliant Exoneration Mana = 1734 Damage = 5089/6870/6106 + Healing Twincast Censure Mana = 1976 Damage = 5103/7655/6507 Hate – 3673 & HoTT 7468 Hate – 3673 Admonish Mana = 1645 Damage = 4208/6312/5365 Hate – 3347 & HoTT 6158 Hate -3029 Remembrance Mana = 946 Damage = 4143/7112 + 20% Chance + 10% Hit Damage - 431AC Doctrine of Exculpation Mana = 1513 Damage = 14645 A couple of notes: 1.) I don't stun tank often. If I do, I just swap out some of the DPS type spells for stuns. 2.) There is a lot of redundancy in those lists - that's on purpose because even when I'm a group healer I want to be prepared to do some work as DPS / Tank. It's also why things like my DPS lineups look like I'm tanking (I usually am and the differences are just a few spells) 3.) On raids, most of my tanking is done as an off-tank / add-tank, so I worry about being able to group heal as well as splash heal 4.) I don't use the stun + heal (Force of Mercy) spell nearly as much as I probably should and there are other spells like that which I don't use enough 5.) These sets should only be a starting point for someone, they should be changed to match what your responsibilities and play style. I load these sets or a set similar and make changes all the time. These are just what I start with.
I wasn't looking for this but glad I found it. My paladin is only 105, but this post is gold. Thank you!
That's a very good point. It's exactly the sort of thing I was pointing out as something I should either use more often, or I would swap something else out for if I felt I needed it. It's actually in my spell set for buffs which I didn't post, plus if you have a good shaman around you can deal with using theirs (Savage Growth) instead. I usually start out a raid with it on, but don't worry about it once it wears off because a nearby shaman is usually covering me with it. If you don't need to worry about the 2nd group heal and want that up and available, then just drop Wave of Grief.
Aren't Crush of the Timorous Deep and Crush of the Darkened Sea on the same timer, I see paladin timer : spell 5 for both, and therefore cannot use both same time ?
You are correct. I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I added that unless it should have been Dichotomic Force that gets swapped in for the extra healing. Thanks for pointing it out.
Feel free, I don't claim to be the greatest ever but I know I don't suck at it. Besides, I wouldn't mind seeing what others do.
So I'll preface this, that is I'm just waking up, and coffee is brewing... Also I'll list why I use certain spells. Buffs: Blessed Aura - more healing Brells- duh Unity-it's an aa Normal day 2 day tanking junk: Brilliant Exoneration - quick cast, good agro, twin cast heal proc Crush TD -Agro 20k Force Mercy - lvl 113 6 sec stun, heal for 7200 every tick x4 Dicho- Agro, group heal Crush Eci -Agro 15k Valiant Def - ToT heal also Refute for Honor - 7900 hatred a tick, reduce incoming damage 10%, for 18k absorbed Pres Rodcet - self ac buff, agro etc Stance - duh Splash of Depuration - AoE Heal/cure Wave of Expiation - 2.1 sec group heal Expiation - fast self heal Typical Raid night/learning new raids etc... I basically swap refute for honor for brells for buffs to the rezzed folks.... Ring of Scale Tier 2 raids I run these, lots of undead. Event 1 Ditch Mercy, load Remembrance Brells for Refute Doctrine of Exculpation for Honor Event 2 is same at normal raid stuff for me Event 3 or as we call it, The Pally DPS event! Ditch crush's, load undead nukes and alliance Ditch splash for aurora of midnight If you followed along, you'll notice I only change a handful of spells. I know we all are different, but this is what I have found to work for me. I also 90% of group game time have a druid/shaman following me so I don't worry about our debuff/agro spell much.
It's 14 k hate a tick, not 7900 hate. 7900 hate is added at the beginning only. So intially it's 22k hate, then 14 k hate per tick. Overall in this thread, I'm surprised to not see mentionned for aggro Force of Disruption AA. This thing should be spammed each time it's up on an aggro set up. 16 k hate casting time 0,1 sec. Disruptive Persecution AA is the one you can use when you are on DPS mode. Nowadays, if you spam a key made of the 2 crush, Valiant Defense, Refute for Honor and Force of Disruption it should be enough to hold aggro over any DPS.
I only listed spell bar stuff, not aa/spam button stuff. As for Refute, only typed what the spell description said.
I reported this bug last year and again earlier this year. It's a bug in the description of the entire Honor line. It's always been there. It's more noticeable now because Refute is the first spell in the line to have different values for each slot.
I used eqressource spell description https://spells.eqresource.com/spells.php?id=55355 It shows the 14 221 hate per tick is SPA 192, which is called "Hate (Duration Only)" The 7 900 hate is SPA 92, which is called "Hate (On Spell land)" If eqressource is right on their spell analysis, then it's the in game spell description that is wrong.
Raidloot Spell information reflects simiarly. SPA clarification by Prathun as well. https://www.raidloot.com/Spells.aspx?name=Refute&class=Paladin https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/enumerated-spa-list.206288/ Refute for Honor RK II 1: Increase hate 13544 per tick - SPA 192 / Base1 14221 (Hate Duration Only 2: Increase hate by 7524 - SPA 92 / Base1 7900 (Hate On Spell Land)
