100 hp gear still out of era in TSS? Corrupted Hammer of Consternation

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Ryak, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. Ryak Augur

    How can a quest resulting in 100 hp/mana gear still be out of era in TSS when raid gear has 400 or 500 hp and group gear, even low tier group gear has 150-200 hp?

    This quest was technically added in a far future expansion, but it is one of those things that was added to enhance the luclin-era experience rather than as current content.

    If it had appropriate stats for the era in which it was added it would have had 1000 or 1500 hp mana instead and then it would be justified to not exist, yet. But it doesn't and it should have come out with Luclin with the identically statted paladin weapon.
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  2. Machentoo Augur


    You just answered your own question.
  3. RandomStrategy Augur

    Look, paladins need a niche, too.
  4. Waring_McMarrin Augur

    I am pretty sure that it is considered out of era because of the proc on it.
  5. CaptainSkeet Augur

    The hammer required to make this is dropped in Luclin era, and is a paladin only DA proc weapon, which is extremely useful for rampage tanking. The proc is simply the SK version of DA, so it’s not overpowered compared to the original item. It was added so that SK, as the other knight class, could get the same usefulness that a paladin could.

    Personally I agree it should be available, since the only real difference is the class restriction.
  6. Waring_McMarrin Augur


    Yes, that is true but that doesn't change the fact that if they wanted SK's to have a DA proc weapon in Lulcin they could have added it when they made the expansion or changed it for previous progression servers when the question was also asked.
  7. CaptainSkeet Augur

    Maybe, but if we use the argument of “that’s not what they wanted at the time” we would have a drastically different game that never had retroactive changes. I mean, what’s the point of adding a quest for an identical weapon to a far previous expansion that has little use in current game unless it was added to make sense?
  8. Girth-Matters Lorekeeper

    There are many things like this that devs added in to fill a gap in content for some reason. Why the content team decides to lock stuff like this behind the time it was added boggles my mind.

    These TLPs aren't p99, there is no reason to handle it like this. These things were added for a reason, stop taking stuff out that would make the game a better experience. Otherwise, if this is the policy, you should take out celestial healing potions and all store potions, etc. You should lock doors in dungeons that used to be locked and make the keys matter. Or, you could just let content that was added to certain expansions later on be in the game, because it was added for a reason.
  9. Roxas MM Augur

    following this logic, lowest level of defiant should be in at classic then, since it has like 16 hps ?
  10. CaptainSkeet Augur

    This is about a single, class specific weapon that was designed for cleric/paladin having an identical weapon for SK/necro. The fact that the identical “corrupted” weapon was added with a small quest to make the original weapon usable by the other classes that have the same type of spell (DA/Harmshield) indicates it made sense for those classes to have an option to get it. If the corrupted version was not added in, then this would be a nonissue since it would be clear it was only intended as a one off for two classes. Since it was, it’s clear someone on the dev team agreed it was fair and made sense in the game to have a polar opposite option.

    Defiant armor is a completely different situation, since it was added into the game under different circumstances for different reasons, and did not have any equivalent gear it was replacing.
  11. Catashe Augur

    Look if you SKs want a hammer so you can sit there and look stupid during raids cause your DAed 90% of the time.. I say give it to them.. otherwise its still OUT OF ERA... Deal with it
  12. Bankheadd New Member

    DA hammers are for virgins, ramp tank with a 2hander and holyforge.
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  13. Hateseeker Augur

    Should be considered a Luclin era item. That it temporally was not instituted until years later should have no bearing; stats are clearly Luclin era.
  14. Chanaluss Can spell Doljonijiarnimorinar, Iqthinxa Karnkvi

    lets be honest: we've had this song and dance before. If they're not willing to give us a level 59 quality of life spell before SoD drops, we're never getting this hammer before it becomes irrelevant.
  15. Deepee New Member

    About when does this hammer actually become live on the progression servers.
  16. ShivanAngel Augur

    Pallies get to do one thing on raids let them keep their hammer.
  17. Captain Video Augur

    It's Hammer time... you can't touch this.
  18. malaki Augur

    Quest becomes active in Seeds of Destruction.
  19. Ryak Augur

    Oh really? so like I could go finish this finally?

    Also, setting the era for this quest for a 100 hp hammer to SoD where the gear has 1000 hp is still ridiculous.
  20. Taladir Augur

    It really is just the same threads year after year in these forums.

    That said, it seems to be itemized for Luclin, so it should probably be revisited.