EverQuest Producer’s Letter April 2023

Discussion in 'News and Announcements' started by Accendo, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. Crabman Augur

    this is definitely not true... computers are faster than human reaction times so uhh yea... good luck
  2. BigBlahformebro Apprentice

    What dream world do you live in, and how do I get there? You know how easy it will be now to set at any named spawn and race actual groups to a FTE now? Before at level 50 you would have to DPS race an entire group of 40s which usually ended poorly and wasn't worth the effort. Now all you have to do is set right on spawn and get first tag. You most likely not going to get everyone of them, but you'll get your share, and the group will kill all the PHS for you. This is a krono farmers absolute dream, and a griefers paradise.
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  3. Komodon Augur

    Yeah, and we are talking about some seriously basic level of entry effort to jump in to that competition. That would no longer require you being that guy setting up your own leveled up ebolt or mage army at the spawn point to be the one walking away with the kill/loot.

    Big picture that isn't good for business, or the higher expectation of success models driving the people to make that type of extended effort in the first place.
  4. Runes Augur

    Very easy fix - release two servers- one with exactly what the Devs want in Oakwynd so they save face and get to test their social experiment and the other a 2.0 Mischief with no FTE and random loot fixed so loot does not drop from easy mobs versus the hard bosses meant to be killed. Let people choose which one they want to play on. This fits the "experimental road map" and makes everyone happy.

    If the Devs are hesitant in having another server as a choice alongside FTE then they have their answer already
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  5. ArtificialSoul New Member

    What about an opt in setting. Would obviously need some modifications to work. Would add complexities of have two different way at the same time.
  6. demilich New Member

    The devs are not stupid, they know that everybody would pick Mischief 2.0. It is not hard to get what players want, just read the forums and every other post is "Mischief / free trade plz".

    But players are a bit like children. If you let a child pick between spinach and candies, guess what they would pick. It would always be candies. But the real question is: What is good for the long term health of the child (or the game for that matter)? Is EQ really better as a random loot/ free trade game? Or is this just something which "tastes good" and provides instant gratification, but will be harmful in the long run?

    Personally I think Mischief is a bit like candies. It was a really cool idea for a TLP and I think it is something which they can and should do again in the future. But it is not something you should expect from every other TLP. There are other ideas worth exploring and the evolving bonuses of Oakwynd are a good candidate.
  7. Sakuraba Augur


    And again I ask why the "Alternative" has to be Free Trade. Free Trade is not the only possible alternative ruleset. There have been some cool suggestions that don't even involve Free Trade. People are making an agenda out of this.
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  8. Zansobar Augur

    They said in the letter that the mobs walk back to their initial spawn point and THEN reset. Walking back only occurs after they lose all agro so that is what will happen in all the cases, FD, death of the player, zoning of the player, memblur being successful etc. The reset doesn't happen until they get back to the initial spawn location which is also how it works in WoW. This part is what prevents trains from affecting others.
  9. Zansobar Augur

    Free trade has been the most popular Live server and the most popular TLP server over time. The universe has been telling DPG what they need to do to improve their game yet they refuse to listen.

    The old saying is true, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink".
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  10. Fideles New Member

    People are making an agenda out of it because it's the type of TLP they want to play on.

    I don't think it's anything more than that.
  11. para New Member

    A lot of people that play on Mischief want a redo after the plat dupe early in Classic. Additionally, a lot of people that played on other servers want a fresh start because they weren't able to when Mischief/Thornblade dropped.
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  12. Murdukethegreat New Member

    Removing ALL powerleveling just to stop RMT PL people will really hurt anyone who misses the initial leveling wave.

    I do understand that in a perfect world people instead of raid logging would keep making alts and level traditionally until mercs come out,but i dont see that happening.

    Ive played on Agnarr and Mischief and i have helped(for free) at least 30 different people boost their chars up so they could join my guilds raids.

    With the elimation of all PL outside of 2001 style PL of get buffs and go kill single mobs. I think this FTE basically locks out a large portion of late comers to the server since leveling largely dies off pretty quickly.

    Please reconsider FTE. Even if we get stuck with the uninspiring legacy ruleset stuff. Put FTE in the same file as account to account transfers never to be seen again(rip 2018)
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  13. Critt Augur

    It's pretty simple if the TLP is about making a profit they will go with a Mischief 2.0 clone...If it's about testing lame duck features like FTE and weird Legacy perks they'll stick with what they've announced. At this point it's up to the player base to show them what they want by voting with their wallets when the server is released.
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  14. Jakken Journeyman

    Of course it's an agenda. Do you even know what that word means, or are you just using it as a buzzword?
  15. jordune Augur

    just imagain all the petitions you are about to get from anybody who feels wronged or slighted on the FTE thing.
    1000's daily.. all will need to be investaged and awnsered..
  16. Sakuraba Augur


    Yes, I know what the word means. But in this specific instance the agenda makes no sense unless the agenda is more kronofarming and profiting off early era stockpiling allowed by a Free Trade format. There are plenty of other rulesets that have been suggested but for some reason the "Alternative" always has to be Free Trade.
  17. Ibadan Kun'Tirel Augur

    I would really love legacy bonuses on live servers (not all of us box, heh)
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  18. Go Take A Nap Augur

    Exactly this. Ive been in similar situations with my core group of friends and guild members that dont have much time.
  19. Starshape Elder

    Surprised there hasn't been an update yet. Guess that comes tomorrow. I doubt we go into the weekend without a 'We hear you...' with some ruleset changes.

    The overwhelming feedback for Free trade/random loot and to remove FTE seem to be the biggest things. Will be interesting if they don't address both.

    I think ideal case would be:

    Two servers

    * 1 free trade/random loot
    * 1 regular yelinak clone

    The legacy bonuses could go on both, they might make AOC lockouts per character instead of account to make that slightly less silly. Or at least give you a headstart into the next expansion instead of no bonus.

    Maybe give one of the servers a Kunark start to differentiate the two a little more.

    Killing off FTE before it's even released, especially after they've probably spent a bunch of time on it and are likely quite proud of it will be a tough one. Maybe they'll still serve that up but only in some of the early zones at first to 'gather feedback'.

    Will be fascinating to see where this goes.
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  20. Trident Elder

    Tomorrow is the weekend and I doubt we hear anything. They have a lot more questions to answer for than making the decision to change exp rates to appease the angry crowd.