Level 70 and 75 Alchemy potion ingredients do not drop until SoF is unlocked on TLPs

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by dentenks, Feb 21, 2023.

  1. dentenks New Member

    On TLPs several alchemy recipes are impossible to craft for their appropriate levels due to ingredients not dropping until later expansions. All of the following ingredients do not drop on TLPs until Secrets of Faydwer unlocks, a level 80 expansion. And while originally these ingredients dropped with the release of Secrets of Faydwer, I feel this is a due QOL change at this point. We are left using level 65 potions for the entirety of the level 70 and level 75 era.

    Is this an oversight or intentional?

    Lucidem (Item ID: 35084) is used in several level 70 potions:
    Distillate of Celestial Healing XI
    Distillate of Clarity XI
    Distillate of Divine Healing XI
    Distillate of Health XI
    Distillate of Replenishment XI
    Distillate of Spirituality XI

    Curzon (Item ID: 35085) is used in several level 75 potions:
    Distillate of Celestial Healing XII
    Distillate of Clarity XII
    Distillate of Divine Healing XII
    Distillate of Health XII
    Distillate of Replenishment XII
    Distillate of Spirituality XII

    Versluierd Fungus (Item ID: 35087) is used in several level 70 potions:
    Basic Suspension of Flame XI
    Basic Suspension of Frost XI
    Basic Suspension of Pestilence XI
    Basic Suspension of Slime XI
    Basic Suspension of Toxin XI
    Distillate of Antidote XI
    Distillate of Comprehension XI
    Distillate of Immunization XI
    Distillate of Regeneration XI
    Distillate of Skinspikes XI
    Effusion of Bertoxxulous XI
    Effusion of Druzzil XI
    Effusion of E'ci XI
    Effusion of Fennin XI
    Effusion of Saryrn XI
    Elixir of the Avian XI
    Elixir of the Beast XI
    Elixir of the Cetacean XI
    Elixir of the Feline XI
    Elixir of the Serpentine XI
    Elixir of the Simian XI
    Elixir of the Ursine XI
    Formed Suspension of Flame XI
    Formed Suspension of Frost XI
    Formed Suspension of Pestilence XI
    Formed Suspension of Slime XI
    Formed Suspension of Toxin XI
    Shaped Suspension of Flame XI
    Shaped Suspension of Frost XI
    Shaped Suspension of Pestilence XI
    Shaped Suspension of Slime XI
    Shaped Suspension of Toxin XI
    Tonic of Benefit Affinity V
    Tonic of Chromatic Affinity V
    Tonic of Contagion Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Distance Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Efficiency Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Gelid Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Heat Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Magic Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Regeneration Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Tonic of Toxin Affinity V (Versluierd Fungus)
    Worked Suspension of Flame XI
    Worked Suspension of Frost XI
    Worked Suspension of Pestilence XI
    Worked Suspension of Slime XI
    Worked Suspension of Toxin XI

    Sunshard Powder (Item ID: 35088) is used in several level 75 potions:
    Basic Suspension of Flame XII
    Basic Suspension of Frost XII
    Basic Suspension of Pestilence XII
    Basic Suspension of Slime XII
    Basic Suspension of Toxin XII
    Distillate of Antidote XII
    Distillate of Comprehension XII
    Distillate of Immunization XII
    Distillate of Regeneration XII
    Distillate of Skinspikes XII
    Effusion of Bertoxxulous XII
    Effusion of Druzzil XII
    Effusion of E'ci XII
    Effusion of Fennin XII
    Effusion of Saryrn XII
    Elixir of the Avian XII
    Elixir of the Beast XII
    Elixir of the Cetacean XII
    Elixir of the Feline XII
    Elixir of the Serpentine XII
    Elixir of the Simian XII
    Elixir of the Ursine XII
    Formed Suspension of Flame XII
    Formed Suspension of Frost XII
    Formed Suspension of Pestilence XII
    Formed Suspension of Slime XII
    Formed Suspension of Toxin XII
    Shaped Suspension of Flame XII
    Shaped Suspension of Frost XII
    Shaped Suspension of Pestilence XII
    Shaped Suspension of Slime XII
    Shaped Suspension of Toxin XII
    Tonic of Benefit Affinity VI
    Tonic of Chromatic Affinity VI
    Tonic of Contagion Affinity VI
    Tonic of Distance Affinity VI
    Tonic of Efficiency Affinity VI
    Tonic of Gelid Affinity VI
    Tonic of Heat Affinity VI
    Tonic of Magic Affinity VI
    Tonic of Regeneration Affinity VI
    Tonic of Resonant Chromal XII
    Tonic of Resonant Disease XII
    Tonic of Resonant Elemental XII
    Tonic of Resonant Fire XII
    Tonic of Resonant Frost XII
    Tonic of Resonant Magic XII
    Tonic of Resonant Toxin XII
    Tonic of Toxin Affinity VI
    Worked Suspension of Flame XII
    Worked Suspension of Frost XII
    Worked Suspension of Pestilence XII
    Worked Suspension of Slime XII
    Worked Suspension of Toxin XII
  2. ForumBoss Augur

    Please fix this to give alchemists something to do other than churn out gate potions. We have been using the same potions for a year (pop) on mischief, they could use an upgrade.
  3. Ratalthor Developer

    This is by design, so I am moving this thread to the Veterans' Lounge for further discussion.
  4. Kahna Augur

  5. coltongrundy Augur

    Based on that thread by Ngreth (https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/alchemy-potion-restrictions-changes.249827/) it looks like this was NOT done by design, but is actually a mistake.

    He said the potion effect was compared to the player spell it most closely resembled and if it was less powerful than the player spell, it was marked to be allowed. If it was more powerful than the player spell then it was marked to not be allowed.

    Based on that design decision, Distillate of Celestial Regeneration XI should be available in Omens of War. The Distillate of Celestial Healing line of potions most closely resembles the Cleric's Elixir heal over time spell line (the effect of the celestial potions is even named similarly, Elixir of Healing, and does not stack with the Cleric's Elixir line).

    Distillate of Celestial Healing XI requires level 70 and heals for between 855-971 per tick.
    The Cleric's Elixir spell in Omens of War, Pious Elixir, requires level 67 and heals for 1170 per tick.
    The Distillate has a higher level requirement than the comparable player spell, and is a weaker version of it. By design it should be made available during Omens of War, but someone made a mistake and flagged it for Secrets of Faydwer instead.
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  6. Kukaw Augur

    Also, I believe the potion merchant in PoK (Ralkor Stoneclaw) won't appear until SoF.
    Alla says he is tied to OoW, but I have not seen him yet on Mischief.