Fixed Internally Shadeweaver's tangle high HP basepop

Discussion in 'Resolved' started by Raccoo, Dec 10, 2022.

  1. Raccoo Augur

    Most basepop NPCs have around 50m HP

    The following basepop NPC's HP seems quite high (like 4 times other basepop in the same zone)
    a_shak_dathor_swayer
    Scorched_bones
    a_charred_shade
    a_gloompetal_thistle
    a_mature_hopper
    a_loda_kai_thug (maybe)
    A_painted_elemental
    a_Loda_Kai_guard_commander
  2. Velisaris_MS Augur

    They're the placeholder mobs for the named.
  3. Fanra https://everquest.fanra.info

    Often a few mobs in every zone have something like twice the HP and give in return twice the experience (exact amounts unknown) of the rest of the mobs.

    This is intended.

    Often these mobs are Giants or Golems, so this illustrates Larger = More hit points.
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  4. Forbick Journeyman

    These mobs have more than twice the hp, regular mobs have around 50-60m in that zone, these mobs have over 340m hp Fanra
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  5. Kendeth Augur

    To add to the above comment, this is a normal non-ph dark blue con grimling in Shadeweaver:
    A shak dratha scout in 41s, 53.41M Damage

    This is a dark blue con ph at the same camp:
    A shak dathor swayer in 169s, 246.27M Damage
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  6. Dharken Elder

    This can in no way be intended. If it is, someone needs to have their head removed from their nether region. This game struggles hard enough to keep people going in some zones. It would make this zone 100% useless as soon as you are done questing.
    I havent checked the other half dozen posts on this topic at this time, but I would bet there is still no response. They were also alerted by someone in Discord, and they (a dev?) responded asking for where the posts were, linked to them, and lo and behold, they stopped responding.
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  7. ZenMaster formless, shapeless

    Add 'a Loda Kai guard commander' (PH for EM24 pet earring named Commander Eslin) for excessive HP level.

    Based on how the commanders are grouped in a small area, it does not seem intended. I also don't think it was their intent to make hunting for the pet earring onerous.

    I may be wrong but worth reporting and reviewing.
  8. Velisaris_MS Augur

    I think some of the newer devs (who have never gone through a full expansion cycle) did a lot of work on this one. It's possible they didn't know how certain things are supposed to work (or the older devs didn't bother telling them). Named ph mobs are supposed to be a *tad* harder than the normal trash mobs. Newer devs may not understand what *tad* is supposed to mean in the context of the game.
  9. Cadira Augur

    Any update to this?

    Placeholders elsewhere don't have rare-level HP so why do these?
  10. alanus Augur

    Yeah, PHs in Shadeweaver shouldn't have 4x the HP of PHs in tier 3 zones
  11. Allayna Augur

    Below are mobs from my parser from the start of the expansion with ~ 300 M hp or more. Vius Vex is the Under Siege boss mob. Jakarashev is the boss mob of Mean Streets. Many of the mobs in Shadeweaver's listed below have more HP than both of them.

    HP Name
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    298M Vius Vex
    299M Vius Vex
    300M Vius Vex
    300M Vius Vex
    300M Vius Vex
    300M Vius Vex
    301M Vius Vex
    303M A painted elemental
    305M A painted elemental
    308M Chromatic Widow Queen
    308M Maricella Slithra
    308M Variegated Monstera
    308M Chromatic Widow Queen
    308M Eelworm
    308M Mycorrhizal Mutation
    308M Vahlkamph
    308M Rabid Rhizanthella
    308M Merrimore Ychansk
    314M Variegated Monstera
    375M Vius Vex
    391M A mature hopper
    394M Jakarashev
    394M Jakarashev
    396M A toughened flarg fiend - unsure if this is from PD or SH
    441M Scorched bones
    446M Jakarashev
    451M A mature hopper
    474M Scorched bones
    507M A mature hopper
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  12. Svann2 The Magnificent

    This used to be a noobie zone!
  13. Velisaris_MS Augur

    Thread subject now shows "fixed internally". The big question is...when does that fix go to the servers?

    This week? Next week? A month from now when everyone is back from vacation?
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  14. Svann2 The Magnificent

    Probably not till January would be my guess.
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  15. Allayna Augur

    Please take a look at some other HP mobs as well.

    Mace in 211s, 693.49M Damage @3.29M, 1. Aallayna = 239.57M@1.14M in 211s

    Mace is a rare in Ruins of Shadow Haven.

    It has as many or more HP than some of the raid minis.
  16. Oberan Elder

    In addition to having the same HP as the named they can spawn the placeholders are all immune to mez, calm, and a variety of other cc spells. Hopefully this will be fixed as well when their HP is fixed
  17. Zipe The Healer

    Why isn't this hotfixed? Why we must wait for it to be fixed after vacations?
    If an expansion isn't finished: don't launch it.

    Offering a bad experience isn't really customer friendly.

    Merry Christmas.
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  18. minimind The Village Idiot

  19. Eaedyilye More stonehive bixies.

    This is correct. I fought Mace tonight. It parsed at 693,511,363. Poor pets had sore arms flailing away on that thing after the fight.
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  20. Barbwarrior Augur

    So this isn’t intended mat aswell skip hunter here till jan?