I gathered some Data on TLP era pet focus effects

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Ottopaul, May 31, 2022.

  1. Ottopaul Journeyman

    Hey folks, I'm a Necro on Mischief, and I was chatting with a guildie, who was also a pet class, about our pet focus items going into OoW, which unlocks soon on Mischief/Thornblade. I tried to find some information on what effects my current focus (Cherished Companion Shard, LDoN Aug that gives Ritual Summoning) would have on the 67 and 70 pets I'll be getting soon in OoW. I couldn't find any detailed info, so i decided to hop on my FV necro and do some testing on early era Pet Focus items.

    I hope this info can be useful to other pet class players on TLP's, and I'll think about posting it in some other places a player might search for info, like the Zam listing for the pet spells or the focus effects.

    Disclaimers: I didn't catch what could be considered "rank 1", because that is the pre-50 mage quest focus items that are elemental specific, and i was using a Necro to test. I also use max hit as a comparison measure between different pet spells and different focus items on the same pet. By max hit, i mean max NON-CRIT hit, as this is not changed by any AA that my post 100 necro had, and it's pretty easy to identify within 15-30 seconds of watching the pet attack. I fully understand that max hit is not a good overall indicator of a pets damage, there are many other factors, but it was the easiest to eyeball quickly, and gives some indication of the difference in damage potential.


    Rank 2 focus = Minion of Hate on Encyclopedia Necrothurgia and Element specific focii on Elemental staves (best available at 50-60 Classic through Velious)
    Rank 3 focus = Summoner's Boon on Diamond Prism of Companionship (easiest available Pet Focus at 65 LDoN, if you don't raid this might be the first one you get)
    Rank 4 focus = Minion of Darkness on Gloves of Dark Summoning (best available at 60 Luclin, first available for BST)
    Rank 5 focus = Minion of Eternity on Symbol of Ancient Summoning (best available at 65 PoP)
    Rank 6 focus = Ritual Summoning on Cherished Companion Shard aug and GoD pet class boots (best available at 65 LDoN)
    Rank 7 focus = Minion of Discord on Gemstone of Dark Flame (best available at lvl 65 GoD)
    Rank 8 focus = Servant of Chaos on OoW pet class boots (best available at lvl 70 OoW)
    Rank 9 focus = Spire Servant on Vermillion Batfur Sash (best available at lvl 70 Depths of Darkhallow)
    Rank 10 focus= Servitor of Scale on TSS class arms and Burning Heart of Sothgar (best available at 75 TSS?)

    spell lvl - focus - con lvl of pet - max non-crit hit - max non-crit backstab (rogue pets only)
    48 pet no focus : lvl 41 max hit 55
    48 pet r2 focus : lvl 41 max hit 57
    59 pet no focus : lvl 47 max hit 69
    59 pet r2 focus : lvl 48 max hit 73
    59 pet r3 focus : lvl 49 max hit 75
    59 pet r4 focus : lvl 50 max hit 76
    63 pet no focus : lvl 60 max hit 73 BS ~229
    63 pet r3 focus : lvl 61 max hit 75 BS ~237
    63 pet r4 focus : lvl 62 max hit 76 BS ~238
    63 pet r5 focus : lvl 63 max hit 81 BS ~253
    63 pet r6 focus : lvl 64 max hit 85 BS ~269
    63 pet r7 focus : lvl 65 max hit 90 BS ~286
    65 pet no focus : lvl 60 max hit 78
    65 pet r3 focus : lvl 61 max hit 80
    65 pet r4 focus : lvl 62 max hit 81
    65 pet r5 focus : lvl 63 max hit 86
    65 pet r6 focus : lvl 64 max hit 90
    65 pet r7 focus : lvl 65 max hit 95
    67 pet no focus : lvl 65 max hit 90
    67 pet r3 focus : lvl 65 max hit 98
    67 pet r4 focus : lvl 66 max hit 103
    67 pet r5 focus : lvl 66 max hit 104
    67 pet r6 focus : lvl 67 max hit 106
    67 pet r7 focus : lvl 67 max hit 106
    67 pet r8 focus : lvl 68 max hit 108
    67 pet r9 focus : lvl 68 max hit 111
    70 pet no focus : lvl 65 max hit 95 BS ~307
    70 pet r3 focus : lvl 65 max hit 102 BS ~330
    70 pet r4 focus : lvl 66 max hit 107 BS ~347
    70 pet r5 focus : lvl 66 max hit 109 BS ~355
    70 pet r6 focus : lvl 67 max hit 111 BS ~363
    70 pet r7 focus : lvl 67 max hit 113 BS ~369
    70 pet r8 focus : lvl 68 max hit 115 BS ~377
    70 pet r9 focus : lvl 68 max hit 118 BS ~386
    72 pet no focus : lvl 70 max hit 110
    72 pet r4 focus : lvl 70 max hit 121
    72 pet r5 focus : lvl 70 max hit 123
    72 pet r6 focus : lvl 71 max hit 125
    72 pet r7 focus : lvl 71 max hit 128
    72 pet r8 focus : lvl 72 max hit 132
    72 pet r9 focus : lvl 72 max hit 135
    72 pet r10focus : lvl 73 max hit 139
    75 pet no focus : lvl 70 max hit 117 BS ~385
    75 pet r4 focus : lvl 70 max hit 128 BS ~418
    75 pet r5 focus : lvl 70 max hit 130 BS ~426
    75 pet r6 focus : lvl 71 max hit 132 BS ~434
    75 pet r7 focus : lvl 71 max hit 134 BS ~442
    75 pet r8 focus : lvl 72 max hit 138 BS ~450
    75 pet r9 focus : lvl 72 max hit 141 BS ~459
    75 pet r10focus : lvl 73 max hit 146 BS ~470
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  2. Ottopaul Journeyman

    Couple notes, I know I was talking specifically about OoW coming up, but I decided to gather data all the way from the earliest classic pet focus to The Serpents Spine at 75.

    And while all of this is data from Necro pets only, I think it should give a good general sense of what kind of upgrades the other pet classes can expect. Like with my Cherished Companion Shard (rank 6), which raised my lvl 65 pet spell Child of Bertoxulus from pet lvl 60 to lvl 64, I assume it will give a similar level boost to the summoned Mage pets and Beastlord warders from the same PoP level 61-65 era.
  3. MischiefTLP Augur

    Pet Focus through TBS, none of the focus work until Luclin:

    Usable at 1: Sphere of Swirling Flame (OoW) r4, Diamond Prism of Companionship (LDoN) r3, Encyclopedia Necrotheurgia (Classic, Nec) r2, Staff of Elemental Mastery: Xxxx (Classic, Mage) r2, Temple of Ro Quests (Classic, Mage) r1

    Usable at 53: Enchanted Harpy Blade (TSS) r4

    Usable at 55: Drowned Man's Hair (TBS) r4, Chaos-Imbued Platinum Band (OoW) r3

    Usable at 60: Gloves of Dark Summoning (SoL) r4

    Usable at 65: Gemstone of Dark Flame (GoD) r7, Muramite Boot Armor (GoD) r6, Cherished Companion Shard (LDoN) r6, The Sweeper (TBS) r5, Summoner's Rune Belt (DoN) r5, Ruby Ring of Embellishment (GoD) r5, Flamestone of the Arcane (GoD) r5, Symbol of Ancient Summoning (PoP) r5

    Usable at 67: Eye of the Labyrinth Dweller (OoW) r6

    Usable at 68: Zulaqua's Cloak (OoW) r7, Pyrique's Belt (OoW) r5

    Usable at 70: Vermilion Batfur Sash (DoDH) r9, Boots: Muramite Cruelty Medal (OoW) r8, Hood of Oblivion (TSS) r6, Silken Mantle of the Summoner (TBS) r5, Stole of Dominion (DoDH) r5, Orb/Sphere of Swarming Darkness (DoN) r4

    Usable at 71: Dentrik's Dementia (TSS) r5, Ancient Legwrap/Silk Legging Pattern + Powersource (TSS) r5

    Usable at 73: Ashen Orb of the Blightpyre (TSS) r7, Magmaraug's Burning Essence (TSS) r6

    Usable at 75: Hands: 150 Phosphene (TBS) r11, Spike Covered Loop (TBS) r11, Burning Heart of Sothgar (TSS) r10, Timeworn Armguard Mold + Powersource (TSS) r10, Orb of Stonecarving (TBS) r6
  4. Kahna Augur

  5. Ottopaul Journeyman


    Well nards, I guess I just needed to keep looking. I was actually using the first link as a reference for available focus items to test with, but never found any of the class specific pet stat lists until you shared them. Google must not like those links.

    At least my data from 71-75 is new, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. Relative to these links anyways, maybe someone somewhere has that list also.
  6. Ottopaul Journeyman


    This part is incorrect. No other spell focus work before Luclin (that I know of), but pet focus DO work from classic through Velious. I verified that on Mischief during the Kunark days, my Encyclopedia Necrothurgia was raising the damage of my 48 pet (but not his level), and was raising both the damage and level of my 59 pet.
  7. Sizzle Journeyman

    Don't be discouraged! The links provided don't list backstab damage, which is information I've been looking for for a LONG time. THANK YOU for providing this!
  8. Fluid Augur

  9. Oldeqplayer Journeyman

    Lots of supporting info on old class guides too ... still see people not giving jewelry and armor to pets but just weapons and haste ... Used to be mage 101 to fully deck out your pet and AAs play into their dps as well.

    https://www.eqmagetower.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2789
  10. error Augur

    I feel like people greatly overestimate the benefit of pet weapons on summoned pets. Currently on Mangler at level 90 the procs from dual pet weapons adds less than 40dps. Don't have parses from all eras but it can only get lower as you go back. Not saying they're worthless exactly, but the way some people talk about them I think the expectations greatly exceed the reality.
  11. Ishbu Augur

    It should be noted that the Gemstone of Darkflame from GoD raises mage pets 1 level but lowers their elemental spell to the point its a total dps downgrade and should not be used.

    It is fine to use it once you get a pet spell from OOW, but in era, its actually bad for mages.