What about a raid that...

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Evye, Aug 24, 2021.

  1. Waring_McMarrin Augur


    Well a lot of your posts seem to be complaints that people don't like the ideas that you posted to start this thread.
  2. The real Sandaormo Augur

    I see a post like this not so much as, is his idea any good or not? I see it more as a starting point to put other peoples ideas out there. There would be a lot of issues on the technical side of the OP's idea but whats your idea? Can add to his or make up your own.
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  3. Warpeace Augur


    We get mechanics alost every expansion that never work due to lag or age of the gaming engine, It sucks. Fact is we need a big upgrade and would be able to see interesting mechanics added to the game that should work as intended, maybe. Not the garbage we see and are told well we wanted it to do this or that but it just cant do it.
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  4. Windance Augur

    Sounds like one of the TBM T2 events where you walked an NPC around the zone as they had stuff blowing up around you.
  5. Biltene Kingslayer

    I did not say our ideas matter more than anyone else. I said if you want a new idea to be accepted you have to prove to the people that have intimate understanding of the game how your idea is different, fun, and interesting, and would make an improvement to the current raid dynamic.

    A suggestion of everyone with the same letter first name has to be in the same group does not clear that bar.
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  6. Elyssanda Bardbrain

    So nice to always be safe then =)
  7. Evye Augur

    Ohh stealth raid sounds fun!
    Just make sure its not a monster mission

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  8. Ozon Augur

    The Stealth raid idea sounds like Zland (a dps check) with extra steps.
  9. Evye Augur

    You started trying to measure sticks.
    "I played this long or that long" yada yada.
    The magic number to be an expert is 10k days which is a little over 416 days. which we all have logged in after 20+ years of playing.

    I'm saying you don't need an intimate knowledge of the game to suggest ideas. They are ideas they don't have to meet any criteria they are just something to consider. It's ok if you don't like them. I'm not trying to change the world but we all need to stop being stuck in our little box. My ideas aren't applying to your uber guild. You don't have to scrutinize them.

    They could play with raid layouts that wouldn't bother me. They have before. 72 players in raid 54 even 36. What if they changed max group size to 3 for an event? Mix it up!




  10. Evye Augur



  11. Windance Augur

    Oh yah we need more monster missions!

    Should be combined with escorting a gnome around to various spots where they get attacked.
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  12. Randomized Augur

    But basic understanding goes a long way to be able to make such ideas applicable. Hey we can colonize the moon (eventually). Let’s colonize Pluto too! One works, one doesn’t, even though it’s technically the same idea.
  13. Evye Augur

    Very fair point. I was thinking like this when grinding on a problem for a long time we get tunnel vision. A fresh set of eyes has helped me out many of times in I.t.

  14. Randomized Augur

    Now that’s not discrediting what you say by any means. And I’m not choosing sides. But what he said about Raiders knowing more of the mechanics of how raids operate would have more weight behind what they say with ideas that could/would work better. I’ve raided in other MMOs to huge success, but I’ve never raided in EQ and thus have no idea the workings behind the scenes so I’m keeping my mouth shut as far as ideas go even though I’d like to take some ideas from other MMOs raids

    It’s kind of like someone who’s only played a Paladin giving ideas/suggestions to the SK class. Sure they’re both tanks and it’s easy to look at them and see what they do, but what looks good on paper isn’t always good in practice.

    Ttitt for tat
  15. Biltene Kingslayer

    I gave you my background as a raider to let you know that I've been doing it a long time and have had many thoughts in regards to how it works. Not to say that it makes me more important than you or anyone else, yet somehow that's how you choose to take it. You do not need any level of knowledge of the game to SUGGEST ideas, true. But you have proven in multiple threads now that you want your ideas discussed or agreed upon on some level, and in order for that to happen, they need to have some level of merit.

    Being different for the sake of being different only is not enough.

    Also, you say your ideas don't apply to my guild, yet if you're making suggestions for raiding, they do apply to my guild as I do raid. Therefore I don't understand why you think I wouldn't have an interest in scrutinizing your recommendations for raids.
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  16. Evye Augur

    I got you, Fam. I raid too.

  17. Evye Augur

    'My ideas aren't applying to your guild. You dont have to scrutinzie them." was a metaphor...



  18. Evye Augur

    News flash I didn't use that acroynm.


  19. Evye Augur

    Here you go bud, I collected these throughout the thread that you seemed to have missed.
    This is me brainstorming bouncing ideas around.
    None of them are rhetorical. Most of them have been largly ignored in the thread.

    What if they changed max group size to 3 for an event?
    If your guild can clear COV in 1 night but mine takes 3 days who gets more experince doing it?
    What would you do if a raid boss randomly disabled buttons on your mouse or keyboard?
    How long should a raid be?
    Would it upset people as much if one of the rules of the raid is EVERYONES dps is halved.
    Would it upset people more if they just doubled the mob hp?
    How is going with non optimal group sets ups really much different than that at the end of the day?


  20. Ozon Augur


    What if they changed max group size to 3 for an event? What exactly would this change for a raid? Except to make it a bigger pain for the RL

    If your guild can clear COV in 1 night but mine takes 3 days who gets more experince doing it? Depends on how many times you have cleared vs the other guys, also how long do you raid for?

    What would you do if a raid boss randomly disabled buttons on your mouse or keyboard? This is effectively Silence

    How long should a raid be? Long enough to kill the mob

    Would it upset people as much if one of the rules of the raid is EVERYONES dps is halved.
    Would it upset people more if they just doubled the mob hp?

    These two are not quite but almost the same thing and again why?

    How is going with non optimal group sets ups really much different than that at the end of the day?

    Depends on your raid make up and the fight and how your guild fights.
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