The Elephant in the room

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by demi, Jul 30, 2021.

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  1. Sissruukk Rogue One

    A lot of grouping involves being in a clique. Happens with me...I have a regular group that I hang out with, but when summer-time hits, most of that group is out doing things other than playing EQ. As Tappin pointed out, if you don't get your progression done early on, you are basically stuck midway through it. I know that I am on a smaller pop server, so groups are harder to find. However, when I have moved to higher pop servers, even then I was unable to find a group most times because of the clique nature of grouping. This game is 20+ years old, and people have formed bonds during that time, get to know each other, get to know each other's play styles, and whether you want to admit it or not, are reticent about letting others in that may throw off that balance.
  2. The real Sandaormo Augur

    As far as I know no ones been banned in my guild. Raids still overflowing every night. You get dkp on the sit list though and can bid on gear from it. Should give raiding a try and stop cheating while your at it.
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  3. Triconix Augur

    Was their an announced ban wave?

    @OP: End of EQ? Lol, maybe for the cheaters. For the rest of us, certainly not.
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  4. Rauven Augur

    As was stated before, it was less than a dozen people banned. If it was as many as the OP claimed. Those people would likely be on the forums or some other media (they aren't) complaining about their bans (they haven't).
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  5. demi Augur

    well maybe if you read thru some of these posts you would know that it was only bertox that was hit . no other server was targeted yet .. my guess is that it was a test run to see the fallout or backlash from the community .. bertox was hit and hit hard ..
    watcha watcha gonna do when they come for you ..
    if they hit more servers down the road they will be able to merge all live servers together and just have 1 or 2 main servers and close up shop ..
    good luck to everyone that uses M Q or I s B ..
    I'm a cheater (assisted EQgamer) and proud of it .. all you folks (think i counted maybe 20 of you) that are against 3rd party software and black is black and white is white and no grey area. your time will come.
    as was said before its a 20+ year old game .. and most of us were not afk botters .. but for the majority of you (20) peeps it doesnt matter we're cheaters and cheaters have no place in EQ .

    R.I.P bertox
    R.I.P EQ
    when EQ goes quietly into the night and with more bans/suspensions on the way it will. Then remind yourself about us cheaters and how we were so bad for this 20+ year old game.
  6. Triconix Augur

    If you think a majority of players are MQers and cheaters, I have a bridge to sell you.
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  7. demi Augur

    I think the majority of players are boxers and use software to do that .. and the cheaters part I put in there cause the 20 or so peeps on these forums believe that peeps who use said software are cheaters no grey area .. I dont know maybe your one of them .
    If you think otherwise , then I have a bridge to sell you also .
  8. The real Sandaormo Augur

    Cheaters love to use the example of Map packs, Gina and parsers. None of which automate game play. Sitting at your computer while your toons run out out and kills stuff is automated game play. Map packs we know are not cheating, the devs themselves stickied Goods maps on this very forum. Gina yells out what the an emote was but doesn't do anything to your game.

    Also, don't you mean Cheating at the best MMO available ( I've tried them all trying to get EQ out of my life )? Cheating at a game that's 20 + years old as you like to keep bringing up is pathetic. If the population on Bertoxx is so low move. You can get the same group gear you got from cheating on any other server or pay to transfer and take the gear you cheated to get with you.
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  9. Dragnath Elder

    Hahahahaha wow...
  10. Suffer Lorekeeper

    Well feel free to call me liar if you will. I used to 6 box on Emarr all gold accounts. I used software and received a 7 day suspension on 4 of 6 accounts. Only received a tell on 1 account (which i replied to) yet 4 were suspended.

    I am not asking for sympathy. The accounts were suspended 7 days NOT banned. I used illegal software, however i wasn't disruptive and never received any tells or messages from another disgruntled player or players. Some will say hooray! Some will call me a liar.

    I don't care which side of the fence your on. What i will say is this, EQ lost 4 gold accounts from me for however long this game lasts. I have been playing EQ for 17 years and refuse to schedule my real life around others to get stuff done. So i 6 boxed with a software assist. Since this isn't viable anymore i cancelled 4 subs and went to Agnarr where i can at least box effectively.

    This game lost $60 a month for the rest of it's lifespan from this guy.
  11. ZenMaster formless, shapeless

  12. Rauven Augur


    What we believe in is ultimately irrelevant. Daybreak makes the rules. We just follow them. If Daybreak decides they are cheats, then they are cheats. In which case they will take the action they wish to take.

    All of which they are entitled to do. Its their game and -we- agreed to their rules when we signed up.

    The sad part of course is many people in this game are making agreements they have no intention of keeping. For me its always been about keeping one's word. I've used some of these programs, but never in EQ where I've agreed not to. So the usage of the programs in question are not a problem for me. But if you want to break an agreement you made and use them anyway. Well I don't have much sympathy for that. You all had the same choice to make I did. You chose differently. Its time for many to simply accept the consequences. At least have integrity and man up to that. Which some have. So this doesn't apply to those who have.


    Or people like this who value their own integrity at a mere $60/month. There's escorts that have far more self worth than that lol.
  13. kizant Augur

    Why wouldn't an escort have high self worth? They're just as worthy as any other decent person.
  14. The real Sandaormo Augur

    Sorry Daybreak, one less bottle of Caviar and one less tin of Champagne.
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  15. Warpeace Augur




    Man You admit it and even post they missed the other two accounts you were using:cool:.
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  16. Benito EQ player since 2001.


    So your bot group probably locks down a good camp nonstop for days and anyone who inquires is a "disgruntled player"?

    You do realize that your bot group is "disruptive" by preventing players from having the opportunity to be at a good camp.

    Typical cheater logic.
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  17. Jumbur Improved Familiar

    The question is what kind of software they are using. There is nothing in this thread that indicates, that they are going after all types of boxing software.

    I too, doubt the majority of boxers uses M Q...
    You know there is boxing software that is allowed, right?

    ...and the age of Everquest is irrelevant in this discussion...
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  18. Benito EQ player since 2001.

    Not everyone. The smart ones do instances and "obsolete" content.

    The static bot groups used to stay in EoK Frontier Mountains. They were "out of sight, out of mind" for a few years (RoS to ToV). Darkpaw may have even turned a blind eye during this period.

    Then static bot groups came roaring in ToV Eastern Wastes and Great Divide. Suddenly, they were emboldened to lockdown CoV Cobalt Scar and Western Wastes (to AA and farm Type 5 augs). It reminded me of the rampant botting in Brother Island during the TDS era. Darkpaw probably saw that they were crossing a line (disruptive gameplay for others).
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  19. Elskidor Augur

    I've never used anything but maps, not even a parser, but it's clearly popular to use the programs. DBG needs to make one their own and include it in their sub and make some profit. Seems like a no brainer to me as long as there is away to prevent the AFK aspect and content difficulty isn't purposely increased to help sell it.
  20. Accipiter Old Timer


    A few months ago I started a thread asking if it was time to remove those filters. The thread was deleted in minutes. Apparently they are very fond of their silly forum rules.
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