Raid Loot Lockouts, Expedition lockouts.

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Lisard, Jan 21, 2020.

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  1. MyShadower All-natural Intelligence

    Ignore the haters. Own it! Brand it!

    Alt Raiders (Put a Lockout on It)
    Doncaytheyce'

    gettin' dzadded
    (If you raidin, get it ready) gettin' dzdded
    (Let's get it and drop it) hey
    Give it up for my alt!
    All right now
    Everybody put your DPS together
    Do we have any alt raiders in the house tonight?
    sing
    All the alt raiders (All the alt raiders)
    All the alt raiders (All the alt raiders)
    All the alt raiders (All the alt raiders)
    All the alt raiders
    Now put your DKP up
    Up in the dz (dz)
    Just zoned in (in)
    I'm doing my alt raiding
    Decided to double dip (dip)
    But now they wanna trip (trip)
    'Cause another chest open for me
    Main up in it (it)
    Lockout up on main (main)
    Don't pay lockouts any attention
    I got no fears (fears)
    Doin' it all three tiers (tiers)
    They can't be bannin' me
    'Cause if DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    Don't be mad once you see that we flaunt it
    If you don't like it, then you shoulda put a lockout on it
    Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh (whoa, oh, oh)
    'Cause if DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    Don't be mad once you see that we flaunt it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    Now wait
    I want y'all to get nice and flaunty with me
    Where I'm from
    We do things nice and flaunty
    We do things nice and flaunty (loot y'all)
    Can y'all repeat after me
    You ready? Say
    Hey-ay (hey-ay)
    Hey ay-ay (hey ay-ay)
    Hey-ay (hey-ay)
    Hey ay-ay (hey ay-ay)
    Hey-ay (hey-ay)
    Hey ay-ay (hey ay-ay)
    Hey-ay-yeah (hey-ay-yeah)
    Hey-ay-ay (hey-ay-ay)
    Now wait
    You still ain't flauntin' enough for me
    Say whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    (Sing) whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh (put your DKP up)
    Say whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    (Where my lockout at?)
    Oh, oh, oh, oh-oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
    Sing (whoa, oh, oh)
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    Don't be mad once you see that we flaunt it (I see you)
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a (lockout on it)
    (Whoa, oh, oh, oh) if DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    Don't be mad once you see that we flaunt it
    If DP don't like it, then they shoulda put a lockout on it
    (Whoa, oh, oh, oh) hey
    Loot y'all

    I mean obviously you can't use the beat, cause that would be wrong. You could probably sample though.
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  2. Marquele Scholar

    If we had raided TOV with our alts for funzies, it would have been for no dkp and the loot would have been randomed on for who ever was in the instance. We wouldn't have added in mains after the chest was open.

    DKP loot goes to mains first.

    But we aren't here to talk about how my guild distributes loot.
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  3. MasterMagnus The Oracle of AllHigh


    I thought you learned your lesson about outing people.
  4. Allayna Augur

    When I want advice on what ornament to buy, I'll ask you.

    You are a moth to a conflict flame though aren't you....
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  5. That0neguy Augur

    The lawyer questing is strong in this one.

    The sheer fact that you have to come up with ways to find technicalities in what Ngreth posted just goes to show you know how sketch it was to do this in the first place.
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  6. Odiiusx Elder

    Isn't that what everyone has been doing for 15 pages now though? Everyone reading what has been posted before and throwing their own opinions in? We both read the same thing and interpret based on our personal knowledge. It doesn't make anyone wrong or right. Hence the reason why we are still arguing our points till the Devs have an official response.
  7. Kleitus_Xegony Augur

    - Probably not the way they intended things to work
    - Not technically an exploit and it's not like they killed a bunch of kittens
    - Will probably be fixed somehow in the next patch without ramifications to anyone involved
    - Other than that, who really cares about a few pieces of loot that they're going to replace in a few months anyways

    I probably should just look away since idgaf and it doesn't impact me at all, but people on both sides of the argument are acting crazy.
  8. That0neguy Augur

    Not really. Some group of people did some sketch stuff, then tried to use wording loopholes in a post to justify it.
  9. That0neguy Augur

    You say that now, before the dev's over react and screw up DZ's and loot for the entire game.
  10. Szilent Augur

    Not technically hacking is what you mean? It is very much, like entirely 100% completely, an exploit. They intentionally circumvented lockouts to get double loots on their main raid force.
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  11. Odiiusx Elder

    nope, we got lockouts...try again.
  12. That0neguy Augur

    Circumvent does not mean you didnt get lockouts...read better
  13. MasterMagnus The Oracle of AllHigh

    In reponse to 'Lawyer Questing'


    No.

    I already pointed out, the best people that participated in this can say is "it's a gray area".

    Those of us that know Right from Wrong and know the spirit and intention of 'Lock Out'. Are already right, and nothing can change that.

    All the dev's are making a ruling on is what is allowed.

    The fact is people that double looted on their main, were, AT BEST, participating in a 'Gray Area' work-around. They were in the wrong, and we already know that too, no matter what devs say.
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  14. Cadira Augur

  15. Allayna Augur

    You're right, I used that leet haxxors command. /dzadd playername.
  16. Lianeb Augur

    [Mon Jan 20 16:45:21 2020] XXXXXX cannot be added to this expedition since they have recently experienced Servant of the Sleeper. They must wait another 1D:5H:57M until they can experience it again. They may be added to the expedition later, once Servant of the Sleeper has been completed.

    I guess we ALL missed this IN GAME message. Just because it is not the way you do it does not make it wrong.
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  17. Jonasin Elder


    Wait, if the devs say MS did nothing wrong, then they were wrong because you know it? Now I'm confused. I also know guilds other than MS did the EXACT same thing with Talendar during ROS. Took mains into VP, beat event 1 and event 2. Dropped DZ gained new DZ with alts and mains. Beat event let mains loot from chest (whether or not the main was in that dz or not), then repeated the process with half mains and half alts on a second instance. Again let people loot items from chest whether or not they had a lockout. Maybe its different since that event could be beaten with probably 24 people during current content so no one cared.
  18. Sheex Goodnight, Springton. There will be no encores.

    Since this has long since devolved into stupid memes, I humbly wish to contribute:

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    Good day, friends, and thank you for all the popcorn worthy entertainment and laughs.
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  19. MasterMagnus The Oracle of AllHigh


    That would be awesome guys, hooray, devs defend MS actions.

    I'm thinking it's much more likely they will rule on how it will be handled in the future, without weighing in on one guild or another.

    And I don't personally think anyone needs banned, suspended, or loot gained from this taken.

    We all saw who did the drunken double loot.
  20. Kleitus_Xegony Augur

    Yes, that would have been a better word to have used. I can see both arguments being technically correct though which is why I doubt anything happens to them for it. I'm sure it won't be possible to do once the T2 raids are active though.
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