Omens of War unused content

Discussion in 'The Veterans' Lounge' started by Rasper Helpdesk, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

    I started working on an OoW guide this week and when I started piecing things together I realized there is a bit of content that was very rarely touched. Did you know that, not counting the MPG trials, there are 30 group instances in the expansion??

    For starters in Dranik's Scar there is a NPC that gives you an instance into Dranik Hollows, one of three possible zones (Watering Hole, Fire Pit, Murkglider Hive). People at the time realized if you were 68+ you got the version with the Anquish signet dropper, 67 or lower you didn't. But what most folks didn't realize is there were actually 4 different level ranges: 53-57, 58-62, 63-67, 68+. Each one had 2 unique rares, each with 2 unique drops, meaning 48 different items came out of Dranik Hollows (4 levels * 3 zones * 2 rares * 2 drops). Pretty much all of those drops are on Magelo and Alla (if not always paired with the correct instance).

    Over in Ruined City of Dranik there is another NPC which gives 3 versions of Catacombs and 3 versions of Sewers. There are 2 level ranges for Sewers (63-67, 68+) but there are 4 ranges for Catacombs. While all of the 68+ instance drops are known, only 4 of 12 in 53-57, 9 of 12 in 58-62, and 21 of 24 in 63-67 have been uploaded to either Lucy, Alla, or Magelo.

    So, if you are bored and want to find some stuff that has been buried for almost 15 years, do some clever shroud work and check out the Catacombs and Sewers.
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  2. Cragzop Cranky Wizard

    Zones got used during the day. At least I know my group (actually group of 5-6 talking over Skype!) played in pretty much every instance zone. The reason most of the drops are not known is that the players who generally run Magelo/Lucy collectors and/or report back to Allakhazam were already 65 when the expansion launched.

    TSS also kind of killed the lower ranges for OoW, DoN and DoDh instance missions since you could just keep leveling without the need to zone so many times.

    The highest missions get used from time to time by folks trying to farm tradeskill components for the Artisan's Prize these days on Live (flipping for faster mob respawn).
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  3. CatsPaws No response to your post cause your on ignore

    Great info for new players - but believe me that content was not rarely touched. Those of us who played then spent most of our game time there. It takes about 3 months of non stop killing just to get your faction up to get the armor. Most of the chest pieces are still valid with great clickies. I just got my sk (85) and chanter (108) their chest pieces this last faction bonus time in May?.

    The reason not much shows in Lucy etc is because no one bothers to load this stuff up on older expansions. Any and every class and guild website at that time had write ups of the drops and best ways of doing them. Most of those are lost now. But like printing out maps back then I even printed out most of the OOW expansion info since it was so long (at that time) - has its own 3 ring binder.

    The bonus everyone liked on the Historians Hollows instances was that you could stay in them forever (unlike ldon) and the names would respawn. I remember when there would be a waiting list for someone to leave the group so you could get a spot.

    Plus the RCOD had signets that were necessary to advance for COA had us rotating the sewers when we were waiting for an opening in The Waterhole (the most popular one back then) But we no longer need the signets - another lost task line in the game.

    I still go to the instances on high level characters - you don't need to shroud. And I always make sure to level up my alts - great exp in those instances. I suggest this to people who always ask in chat about where to level and I point them to the Historian or Sewers but no one ever goes - they just want get to 110 (soon to be higher lol can you say carrot?)

    Thank you for the hard work your doing to help keep the older content alive. :) Wait till you hit GOD - the quest line there was very long also.
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  4. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

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  6. Dahaman Augur

    Do you have a page that links to all the expansions?

    I see a Rasper's Repository page that links to newer expansions (starting with Dragons of Norrath), but don't see the POP and Gates expansions on that list (yet).
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  7. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

    http://www.raspersrealm.com/Everquest/

    After I quit making guides comcast decided to remove the free webspace they were offering which is where I hosted them. To keep them from going away I zipped it all up and gave it to others to host (like samanna). I've recently gotten my own webspace, RaspersRealm.com, so I put my EQ guides there along with other things I've worked on over the years. I have a guide up for Algebra 1 too if anybody is interested lol.
  8. Dahaman Augur

    Huzzah! Thank You!
  9. Egat Should have stayed in Halas

    Hi Rasper, didn't realize you'd returned. Thanks for the guides over the years, you were a big help getting through a couple expansions worth of content!
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  10. Natal Augur



    Because you did not know does not mean that other people did not know.
  11. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

    Let me put it this way. There are 20 instances, each with 2 rares, each with 2 drops. Here are the instances and number of known loots:

    68+ Hollows - 12 of 12
    63-67 Hollows - 12 of 12
    58-62 Hollows - 12 of 12
    53-57 Hollows - 12 of 12

    68+ Sewers - 12 of 12
    63-68 Sewers - 10 of 12

    68+ Catacombs - 12 of 12
    63-67 Catacombs - 10 of 12
    58-62 Catacombs - 6 of 12
    53-57 Catacombs - 4 of 12

    So yeah people know and commonly did the Hollows instances out of Dranik's Scar. But very very few people used the lower level versions of Catacombs out of Ruined City of Dranik. In fact, of the 24 rares in the instances below 68, while 30 of the 48 drops are known, only *1* has the actual mob name attached (Dragorn Champion Silrom).

    That is what I meant by unused. Those lower level instances are so underutilized that even a decade later neither magelo nor alla have the drops.
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  12. Bobbybick Only Banned Twice

    Dunno why you are getting so much flak for pointing this out, there's a few spots in EQ where there is just very little documentation on some content because of how top-heavy in levels the playerbase is. You'll find basically the same thing in PoR group instances where there is some scaling applied based on group level and a lot of the named/drops aren't listed except if they were datamined to lucy.

    Easy example: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemlist.html?searchtext=of the avaricious

    If you go through those items maybe half of them have a listed drop location. The others? I'm sure SOMEONE saw one at some point but because it was such a medicore drop at that level of content they didn't bother to report it, or it was in some backwater scaled down instance that nobody outside of some crazy on a TLP server would waste time on.
  13. Gherig Addicted since Aug 1st, 1998

    Rasper ... you have always consistently, in my opinion, created the best, easiest to follow and most complete guides for this game. I never have had a time when I went to your guide and had to look at some other site for the rest of the info. It was a real bummer when you stopped doing them, and I am very glad for everything you have and will add since then, even if its just a little here and there. Just wanted you to know that.
  14. snailish Augur

    Lost tribal knowledge is lost knowledge if you won't share what you know with those that remain that weren't in your old crowd.

    Some of the best info on really old places is locked behind defunct guild websites (i.e., did some updating of Sleeper's Tomb info @ Allakhazam's a few years back and there were huge gaps --but I recall being in a guild that had amazing walk thrus on their own website).

    Recent/modern reporting is useful to any site --even just to verify that it hasn't been changed.

    Kudos to Rasper. I respect the effort and appreciate the return of this community contributor.

    Don't forget about Allakhazam, EQresource, Fanra, Samanna, eqtraders, etc. --understand that users posting even tiny bits of confirmation is not only helpful, but a pat on the back that this work (running said websites) is still worth it --consider most of these sites stay up as a volunteer labor of love whether they are connected to some corporate behemoth or not.
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  15. CatsPaws No response to your post cause your on ignore

    I did not mean to come off as giving any one flak ( I think Rasper has many great guides) but having been in those zones for over 5 months solid made me cringe when it was said no one knew about them. This is just one of the many many sites from back then that list items that drop:

    http://www.guildseofon.com/dranikshollows.html
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  16. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

    That site only lists the two highest levels of the instances. The content I was talking about were the low level versions. For example:

    Catacombs of Dranik A

    Rare 1 (53-57)
    Drops - Unknown, Unknown
    Rare 2 (53-57)
    Drops - Unknown Unknown
    Rare 1 (58-62)
    Drops - Unknown, Unknown
    Rare 2 (58-62)
    Drops - Scalemesh Bracer, Eshen Blade

    Those are the rare mobs in the lower level instances for Catacombs. Of the 8 drops, only 1 is on magelo, one I know the name from lucy, and no data on the actual names of the rare mobs.
  17. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

  18. Nniki Augur

    One of the undead named near the entrance in Plane of Valor drops Mediator's Staff, which doesn't have a named listed for it on the various sites. I'd be curious if any of the others there are undocumented, as they seem to have some extremely rare drops. Most of the named in Valor appear to drop two items according to Raster's page, but some have one or none listed. Of course, it's possible they do drop nothing...

    The old dragon raid drops that moved to the named in the revamped Veeshan's Peak were mostly unlinked up until a few years ago, but that's probably mostly filled in now.

    All those weird PoR Freeport missions... I didn't even realize they existed until I did the optional traveler achievements there. The Drachnid Spies mission is probably still broken too.
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  19. Xianzu_Monk_Tunare Augur

    Are you sure that these actually worked that way at launch? I am fairly sure that these were changed in the lead up to the release of Heroic Adventures. There was only one instance, the level of the mobs simply scaled to the average level of the group at the start. They simply did not allow lower level version of the signet droppers, so that you needed to have a specific average level to get them. I do not believe that the individual named were added until they were working towards Heroic Adventures. I remember a number of older instances getting treatments in those very level ranges (LDoN, OoW, DoN, and others), and in the testing you would get level specific named and drops which were not done previously. This would also explain why there is not a complete set of the drops listed anywhere.
  20. Rasper Helpdesk The Original Helpdesk

    They always worked this way, the item ID numbering scheme is very consistent from instance to instance.

    70001-70030 - Dranik Scar
    70035-70077 - Spire
    70080-70112 - Bloodfields
    70115-70147 - Causeway
    70151-70192 - RCoD
    70195-70237 - WoS
    70240-70282 - MPG
    70285-70327 - RSS
    70350-70361 - Instances 48-52
    70380-70403 - Instances 53-57
    70405-70428 - Instances 58-62
    70430-70465 - Instances 63-67
    70470-70505 - Instances 67+